At 08:26 AM 5/17/2005 -0700, Nick wrote: >> Fine then, Nick, then answer the challenge! Name one type of abortion >> that Liberal Democrats have consistently failed to defend from >> restriction! > >I named *all* types. You're still failing to make a distinction between >defending abortion and defending the legality of abortion.
But Nick, I don't think you have provided any evidence that your characterization of liberal Democratic views on abortion is more accurate than Dan M.'s. For example, if the standard liberal Democratic position is *not* to, as Dan M. put it, to "defend all abortions" - then surely these liberal Democrats believe that some abortions should not occur. And if they believe that some abortions should not occur, one would expect them to support restrictions on these abortions that should not occur. Yet, do you have any evidence of this? At this point, I am going to presume that you have conceded that the standard liberal Democratic position is to oppose all of the restrictions I identified, as you have repeatedly declined to identify one for which the standard liberal Democratic position is to support that restriction - even though such identification would constitute proof of your original argument. So, Nick, if the standard liberal Democratic position is as you described, and not as Dan M. describe, then: -why is there standard opposition to mandatory waiting periods? -why is there standard opposition to letting doctors and hospitals refuse to provide abortions based on their own conscience? -why is there standard opposition to having minors notify a parent, guardian, or judge? -why is there standard opposition to a prohibition on "partial birth"/"dilation and extraction" abortions? -why is there standard opposition to a prohibition on abortions after the fetus is viable outside the womb? -why is there standard opposition to a prohibition on gender-selection abortions? If there is no explanation for the above, then Dan M.'s description of the standard liberal Democratic position would seem far, far, more accurate than whatever you seem to be arguing. JDG _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
