At 05:19 PM 5/17/2005 -0500, Garu wrote:
>> >> I don't see it that way. Let's take one contraversial subject: 
>> abortion.
>> >> The standard liberal Democratic position is to defend all abortions 
>> without
>> >> question.
>> >
>> >Extremist strawman hogwash. That is neither the party position, nor much 
>> of
>> >anybody in it.
>> 
>> Oh really, NIck????
>> 
>> Then I am sure that you are more than happy to provide information to
>> disprove Dan's proposition. Republicans have proposed a number of
>> sensible restrictions on abortion over the years. Can you name one such
>> restriction that was supported by liberal Democrats????
>
>Allow me to provide a list of suggestions:
>> -no public funds should be used to fund abortions
>> 
>-Catholic hospitals should not be required to perform abortions
>> 
>-minors should be required to notify their parents or a judge before
>> getting an abortion
>> -there should be a mandatory waiting period for an abortion
>> -"partial-birth"/"dilation and extraction" abortions should be prohibited
>> -abortions after viability should be prohibited
>> -gender-selection abortions should be prohibited
>
>
>All of these positions have been supported by Democrats. 

Yes, there do exist a handfull of pro-life Democrats, particularly at the
State and Local level.    The above restrictions, however, have never been
supported by a majority of Democrats in either house of Congress.   

>But this is a straw man argument. Lets try the same type of argument in a 
>slightly different context
>
>Why do the conservative Republicans always feel that government belongs in 
>the bedroom regulating behavior?

Conservative Republicans clearly do not always feel that way.   When was
the last time conservative Republicans proposed a new regulation for a
behavior that primarily occurs in the bedroom?     Perhaps we could use the
same test you have proposed by examining past party platforms?

You have correctly made an analogy.   By using the word "always", I merely
need to find one example in which conservative Republicans have not felt
that the government belongs in the bedroom regulating behavior to disprove
your thesis.    In this case, conservative Republicans do not feel that the
government belong in a bedroom regulating masturbation. 

We're still waiting for that one mere example needed to disprove Dan's thesis.

>Why do they always feel that the government knows more than a woman and her 
>doctor on sexual matters?
>
>Can you point me to positions where these are not consistently supported by 
>conservative Republicans?

I can think of no example in which conservative Republicans have proposed a
law that states that the government knows more than a doctor and a woman
regarding sex.    So, not only is it not consistently supported, there is
no single example of it being supported.

JDG

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