----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Abortion and the Democratic Party
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> Warren Ockrassa wrote:
> > On May 18, 2005, at 9:26 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> >
> >> Got an explicit example of this occuring exactly as you lay it out,
> >> or are you simply engaging in supposition?
> >
> > To be fair, I think we should talk about the hypotheticals, even the
> > ones that seem (to some of us at least) only remotely feasible or
> > not
> > particularly relevant, because if something is reasonably possible,
> > eventually it'll probably happen.
> >
> > It seems to me that a lot of Dan's concern is based in the
> > extremes --
> > the fringes, the things which happen rarely if ever, but which (to
> > him
> > at the very least) seem to pose some serious ethical or moral
> > questions.
>
> If so, then I would agree that it is interesting territory to explore,
> but I am pretty sure that Dan is wrong in his estimation of how such a
> situation would actually work. I respond to this in another email.
>
>
> >
> > That an eighth-month abortion because of "malaise" has not yet
> > (TTBOMK) happened doesn't necessarily mean it won't, and if (as I
> > suspect is the case here) one feels an infant's soul is in peril or
> > something like murder might be perpetrated, discussion of
> > hypotheticals becomes crucial, if for no other reason than respect
> > for the sensibilities of those involved in the discussion.
>
> I understand the kind of argument Dan is making. I want to know if
> there is some record of such an occurance actually happening.
> It is a simple and honest question, but not some debate ploy.
> Dan's example goes against my personal experience ( which is a bit
> tangetial to the subject, but still applicable AFAICT)

I'll answer this quickly...I'm going someplace with my wife.  Part of my
experience is listening to my sister's experience as a nurse observing late
term abortions where the mother's life was not at risk at a hospital she
was working at.  She found them very disturbing.

I could ask her for specifics for the list, but she and her husband are
_very_ stressed out over their work situations at the present time and I
don't want to add to it.  But, when she said this she was specifically
asked about grave risk to the mother, etc. and replied in the negative.

Dan M.


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