On May 24, 2005, at 1:13 PM, PAT MATHEWS wrote:

From: Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Yes -- once again there are exceptions which suggest that laws, which can't be created in such a way as to take into account all exceptions, can in enough circumstances cause sufficient suffering to lead to the conclusion that it would be best to eliminate the law in question rather than rewrite it.

Or, better still, not make the law in the first place.

That's what judges used to be for, until the feds started making them toe some sort of line.

Heh heh. Is that really so new, though? The "toe the line" part I mean. I haven't been actively conscious of Supreme Court and other nominees for more than about a quarter century, and based on that I can't really judge history's facts, of course. I would be very surprised, however, to learn that this is a comparatively recent trend.

[Robert here]

I like to think the world is moving away from situations that allow
this kind of child abuse to occur. I'm probably wrong.

It's being forced under wraps, I think. That makes it *more* dangerous and *more* toxic.

I think it used to be much further under wraps in midcentury than it is now. Today's willingness to speak up about such things has helped enormously.

Well, except in cases where false accusations are made and the innocent are pilloried, or cases where -- if there's a risk a kid might talk -- murder is done to keep witnesses silent. The whole issue is just ugly and ... well, horrible.

Though on reflection, yeah, it does seem like there's more willingness to investigate, to prosecute, to attempt to address pain and heal minds. That's definitely an improvement.

And it is these very thorny issues that I simply cannot accept are reconcilable with something so facile as judicial fiat. A simple definition of "human" does not exist, "human rights" are extremely plastic terms of convenience -- nothing more -- and one man's murder is another man's abortion of a child of incest.

Man's?!?!?!?!

Or woman's, yes. I'm kind of a stickler about some things. I know English can be seen as inherently sexist in dealing with impersonal pronouns, but that's the way the language is constructed. So if the alternative is either to use a grammatically incorrect word ("their" or the ghastly "hir" in place of "his", f'rinstance), or a tortuous formulation that is inclusive but too wordy ("his/her"), I'll probably go with the impersonal pronoun.

Surely you know I was paraphrasing the old saw "One man's meat..."

There is no way that any kind of law can ever be written to deal with these kinds of issues.

There is, but it can't deal in absolutes and excluded middles.

Right -- I think that's what I was suggesting. It can't be inclusive, it can't handle exceptions, and it would -- I think -- exacerbate suffering. Not much of an argument in favor of trying to produce any such law. :\


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Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books
http://books.nightwares.com/
Current work in progress "The Seven-Year Mirror"
http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

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