Gautam,

--- Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This guy's head -- and apparently, his heart -- is completely empty.

I'd say that that description is much more accurate of the anti-war
movement that's cruelly using this poor woman.

She went there of her own accord. What others do with that is their
choice. Some, like the neo-con echo-chamber, are cruelly abusing her.
That's their choice, too.

In this case, you're dealing with someone who has _already_ met the
President,

As has been loudly trumpeted in that same echo-chamber. And answered.

She and a group of others met with him prior to the revelations that
this war of choice was entered into on a foundation of lies. She was
mildly polite about their last meeting, and has changed her mind as the
falsehoods that cost her son his life have piled up.

But I forget: although they drive around with bumper stickers that say
"Jesus Allows U-Turns", anyone who changes their mind is labeled a
flip-flopper by the neo-cons.

and who also deals in pathetic anti-Semitism, incidentally. Christopher
Hithens dealt quite well with such things in Slate, amongst many other
people. http://www.slate.com/id/2124500/

In the piece cited by this Bush apologist, I do not find the claim of
anti-Semitism claim that you assert. He quotes her noting the PNAC pro-
Israel basis for the war as a reason that her child died. Do you confuse
her rejection of blind support for Israel as anti-Semitism? I guess it
is no longer permitted to criticize Israel. I'm sick of people shouting
anti-Semitism every time Israel is criticized.

Out of curiosity, had I been killed in Iraq, would that mean that my
parents would then have the right to demand a _second_ meeting with the
President and insist that he continue the war so that my death was not
wasted, or does such a privilege only go to people who agree with you?

I support people with whom I agree, so I probably wouldn't get behind
the Mukundas' pro-war rally. Nonetheless, they would be as much under
Maureen Dowd's  claim that "The moral authority of parents who bury
children killed in Iraq is absolute." as Cindy Sheehen is. I would
disagree with their stated aim, but endorse their right to declare it.

What I would ask also is, has the anti-war movement no sense of decency, using this poor woman as a prop in its attempts to attack the President?

Asked and answered. She went there of her own accord. What other people
do with her actions is their choice. Freedom isn't free, and it isn't
always convenient.

How do you feel rallying to someone supported by David Duke
(http://www.davidduke.com/index_print.php?p=350) - it seems to me that
people willing to exploit a poor, bereaved woman as she lashes out to
assuage her grief should be comfortable in his company.

I don't play that game with you, and it is a game.

Dave

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