> From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> With all that, thanks for the post. It goes with my recent rant (not
on
> list) that God is definitely working through those your so-called
> "Jeebo- Fascists", just not at all the way they think He is. Pat
> Robertson's murderous ravings, the failure of programs like this one
and
> the nonsense of "intelligent design" are all contributing to a sense
> that conservative Christianity is off the rails. Now, if we liberal
> Christians can just get off our asses and tell the story of a
> Christianity that doesn't label anyone who is not *exactly* like us a
> damned sinner, maybe we'll be getting somewhere.

Don't be absurd.  "Chistianity" has never been _on_ the rails.  It's
always been a bloodthirsty murderous cult, obsesed with blood, and
killing, and converting at the point of a sword.  It's an evil
pervasive disease that will drive the human race extinct.


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However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise.
There is no position on which people are so immovable as their
religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a
debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this
supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on
one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are
growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with
wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following
their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups
on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a
loss of money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the
political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if
I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.'
Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to
claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even
more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every
religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my
vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will
fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral
convictions to all Americans in the name of 'conservatism.'
    -- Sen. Barry Goldwater (R)
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