On Oct 5, 2005, at 5:20 AM, Leonard Matusik wrote:
I'm fully in Warrens camp (from last Gay Penguins post) about this.
Hmm, it's a small step from camping to … well, never mind. ;)
GayCommunity, GayMarriage and GayPride are all consumate BullSh*t.
They're — to my mind — politically necessary. That is, to no small extent I think the gay community might be defined more by its opposition than itself.
That said I thoroughly approve of outing. Anyone who behaves in a bigoted way deserves to be exposed to the very ridicule and scorn he heaps upon others. An ex of mine never agreed with me on that, even though he was pretty active in the community. I'm still not sure what the objection is.
It's bad enough that we've had to institute so-called marriage to insure the rights of women/children.
Actually TTBOMK marriage originally came about more as a way for men to assert their rights of property over women and children. Think of the old Roman Pater Familias, for instance. He was not just the head of the household; he could punish the people he owned (wife and kids) in any way he chose, even with death, if they got out of line.
We've tried to modernize marriage, but to no small extent I think it's still regarded — by many men and not a few women — as ownership papers. Some of those who resist the idea of same-gender marriage are trying, in part, to protect some of that, I think. After all if both partners are of equal footing in gender, the question who owns whom becomes much more difficult to resolve.
In a pre-genetic testing era is was maybe necessary. Heck, many men need threats of violence just to pickup their dirty laundry from the floor!
And you think that's changed? ;)
But now we have people calling for laws to basically protect their sexual hobbies from the criticism of other people!
Not criticism; that's fine. It's the attempts to legislate away the right to carry on as one sees fit that are really under fire here. Do remember that sodomy is still a crime in many parts of the US. If there's a defensiveness to the gay community, perhaps this helps explain it — as well as the reason for the community in the first place. The best way to shut gays up is to leave them alone.
There's some we all need, MORE LAWS. (i leered, my voice dripping with sarcasm) Mark my words, the InterSpecies sex people are next. Specialized pet shows coming soon to your neighborhood.
Already happens. You can pay to see women have sex with donkeys. And there is a small interspecies sex movement, FWIW. Oddly enough, Peta has not yet weighed in on the issue, but I suppose it's just a matter of time before we see the MEAT IS MURDER placards replaced with SEX IS RAPE signs.
I agree with my Catholic parish priest on the matter. He says the state has no business giving out marriage licenses, period.
And how many altar boys has he run through, so to speak? I don't think a sworn-celibate priest is in any position (!) to criticize marriage laws, for better or worse. (!!)
Marriage, like GayCulture, is a personal opinion. Everyone is entitled to both their personal opinions and a degree of freedom from those they don't like.
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