----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Denton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Bitter Fruit
From: "Alex Gogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Lying to the world was not the answer. Open minded people across the world knew that there was no >>weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. On 11/6/05, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let me focus on that point for one post. It is fair to make that statement > now, with all the evidence that we have after the war. That statement was > not true before the war. His statement was true, *if* you did not only depend on American mass media. I knew the administration's case was repeated lies and exaggerations because I was looking for the answers and found them in foreign, mainly UK, NZ, and Canadian, sources. I wasn't depending on the American media which was acting like the yellow press in 1898. > > It can be seen in two parts. First, it was clear that Hussein had and used > weapons of mass destruction before the first Gulf war. He used them > against the Kurds and against the Iranians. Partially true, the CIA and others concluded it was actually Iran who used gas against the Kurds because of the type of gas used. It made a good story that Saddam had used it and has been repeated so much I doubt many in in the U.S. know that this is disputed. > > Second, after the first Gulf war, inspectors found evidence of a range of > WMD programs. IIRC, this included evidence of a nuclear program that took > them several years to find. Hussein was playing a game of cat and mouse > with the inspectors, basically, throught the interwar period. Yes, but mark that date - they found evidence of programs from before Gulf War I, but had reliable information it was nearly all destroyed after the War as the agreement called for. The inspectors were still there because of the difference between "all" and 'nearly all" and poor paperwork. As well as paranoia by the US Cheney clones - if a facility by running 24 hours a day by slightly over stated capacity could have produced 150 tons instead of their reported 21 tons where was this missing mythical production! >> Inspectors were effectively stopped from doing their work in '98...so >> Clinton bombed suspicious facilities. It is/was hard to fathom why a >> leader who had nothing to hide would accept bombings instead of simply >> showing that he had nothing to hide. >I think you have a misguided perception of this event. Clinton forced >the inspectors to withdraw and Saddam couldn't do anything about it. Let me focus on this one point. Are you saying that Saddam was not throwing up roadblocks for the inspectors in the latter part of the '90s. Did Clinton conclude that, as a result of these roadblocks, the inspectors were no longer capable of verifying that the WMD programs had not been restarted. Thus, he felt that bombing suspected sites, which were off limits to the inspectors, was a better course of action than to continue as things has happened. IIRC, I remember seeing pictures of the inspectors being stopped at gunpoint. Do you differ with this explanation? Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
