On 29/05/2006, at 3:26 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

So:

(1)  virus  ( ) alive ( ) not alive.

(2) BSE prion  ( ) alive ( ) not alive.

(Choose one and only one answer to each question.)

You're making a classic error, of forcing things into pigeonholes. There are some things that are alive, some not, and some that are "life-like", that miss on one of the factors that define things as living, but still behave like living things. I could say that yes, viruses are "alive", and "prions" are not. But it's actually meaningless at this level. Both evolve.

Living             Elephants Badgers Squid Seqouias

                        Seaweed Tapeworms Sponges

                        Slime Moulds Nematodes

                        Amoebae Flagellates Diatoms

                        Salmonella

                        Archaebacteria

                        TMV, phages

                        HIV, ebola

                        "naked RNA" virions

                        prions

                        enzymes

                        proteins

                        organic chemistry

Non-Living      chemistry

Where do you draw a line? Between the archaebacteria and macrophages? Some viruses are as big or bigger than some bacteria. They do everything except metabolise - they piggy back on a host's metabolism. Yet when they have that environment, they reproduce and adapt and evolve.

Unlike evolution, defining life is *not* a settled question. The list I gave of properties of life is just a variant of one of the systems - there are others. If even biologists can't agree on this, I see little hope in there ever being a clear-cut definition of life. Maybe there shouldn't be one.

Charlie
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