At 01:32 PM Wednesday 6/7/2006, Dave Land wrote:
On Jun 7, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

<<http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/science/3945197.html>>

    The supernova appeared in the constellation Lupus, a little
    below and west of the well-known constellation of Scorpius,
    the scorpion.

    "What particularly got my attention about that rock and the
    glyphs on it was the representation of what is pretty obviously
    a star, and a bright star at that. And the figure of a scorpion.
    Scorpions appear in rock in the Southwest but are not a very
    common motif," Barentine said.

Do anthropologists know that North American aboriginal people thought
of that constellation as a scorpion? Just because "we" do doesn't
necessarily mean that they did.



Look at a star map, even one without lines or labels depicting the officially recognized constellations. (Frex, any planetarium software program with those features turned off.) Scorpius is one of the few constellations which really resemble the animal they are supposed to depict. And people in the SW would be familiar with them.



I've often wondered whether other cultures came up with the same
constellations as the Greeks and Romans did, and that we recognize.



I believe that some Polynesians saw the figure as a fishhook, which was perhaps more familiar/important to them than a scorpion.



At least in the Northern hemisphere.

Who knew there was a constellation "Antlia", which is said to depict
an air pump?



Me. :P



Appearing in the Southern hemisphere, Antlia was
introduced by Nicolas Louis de Lacaille in the mid-18th century to
commemorate Robert Boyle's invention. Lacaille also came up with
"Horologium", the Pendulum Clock, a faint and obscure asterism of the
Southern hemisphere. Its similarity to any sort of clock is difficult
to see:
<http://www.dibonsmith.com/hor_con.gif>.)



True. Many of these so-called "modern constellations were introduced to fill in gaps between the 48 classical constellations in the list found in Ptolmey's _Almagest_. The gaps of course included the part of the sky with which the Greeks were unfamiliar, especially that part of the sky within 30° of the then south celestial pole. (Because of precession, Greeks living in Alexandria and vicinity could see frex Crux and alpha and beta Centauri, which are now closer to the SCP and so not visible from there any more.)


--Ronn!  :)

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