On 05/07/2006, at 12:10 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Yet kerosene in an semi-enclosed space likely doesn't burn much hotter
than 350C.
You have to have free access to oxygen to even get it to burn at 500C.

There is plenty of draught in a high-rise with smashed windows.

800C is a best case temp and WTC was not even close to a best case.

Plot of an office fire with and without sprinklers here:

http://www.mace.manchester.ac.uk/project/research/structures/ strucfire/CaseStudy/Others/default.htm

You'll see the real fire reached 1400 degrees for a while.


I'm not saying there was a grand conspiracy, but that the
explanantions so far are incomplete and do not fully explain the
collapse.

Individually, no. Together, they show a myriad of conditions which combined to weaken the structure enough to bring the thing down.

I need to ask you for a cite on that one. I can't find any information
that posits molten AL at the Pentagon.


Molten Alaska? ;-)

I remember a report from the time, but can't find a cite right now, so disregard it for the moment.

And then there is the question of the hole in the Pentagon, or
rather the lack of  a hole.

Ask Matt Rhodes about the hole.

That's a fairly easy one actually.

It is. But it's hardly a "lack of a hole", it's a big hole.

Charlie
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