--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, I'm sorry.  Your argument is fallacious because the chance
> that the male/female ratio becomes severely offset under current
> circumstances is  very close to zero.

Well, obviously I disagree.  You haven't really provided any
evidence to back your view that it "is very close to zero", other
than to refer me to Charlie's posts.  As near as I can tell,
Charlie's posts are a "long run" argument.   Well, in the "long run"
we're all dead.   In the meantime, that could be tens of millions of
people being born into unbalanced generations.

> But what indication do you have that any of this would ever
> happen?  You  can't make laws based on imaginary scenarios;
> _nothing_ would be legal!

If we couldn't make laws based on imaginary scenarios, we also
wouldn't have laws banning the sale of prescription drugs until they
have undergone clinical trials.

I also think that we have the experience of countries like India and
China to suggest that in the short term, it is possible for
misaligned incentives to cause parents to produce imbalanced
generations.

Here's the thing, Doug.   Either you agree that the State has a role
in preventing misaligned generations, or you don't.  I'm not at all
sure if you are denying the role of the State to prevent misaligned
generations, or are just saying that our particular State (the USA)
shouldn't be taking any action at this time.

> > Yes we are.   We are talking about conceiving a number of
> > children,
> > and "eliminating" the children of the undesired sex.
>
> Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy.  I mean really, are
> you going to ban sunglasses next because they might block the
> twinkle in Daddy's eye?

Abortion is the killing of an unborn child, plain and simple.

I can't believe that after all my years on the List you could still
bring up the tired old saw about "every sperm is sacred", as if you
*still* don't recognize where I see the difference.   Sigh.   It
makes me wonder why I bother coming back here...

> > I can only hope that you get the opportunity to join me in
> > supporting a ban on sex-selection abortions.
>
> I promise you that if sex selection via termination of pregnancy
> becomes a
> problem in the U.S., I'll write my congressperson.

How many times does it need to happen for it to be a "problem"?

JDG




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