Catching up slowly with postage...

>-- jdiebremse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  Deborah Harrell wrote:

[Dan? I'm not recalling exactly-]
> > > One of the ideas that came from the
> > >Enlightenment is that "all men are
> > > created equal."  That concept means that the
> > > differences in intelligence,
> > > race, religion, age, are superficial differences
> > > when discussing human
> > > rights.  We are all endowed with equal rights
> > > (most think that the use of
> > > the word "men" was not intended to exclude 
> > > women as having no rights)..no
> > > matter how different we are.
> >
> > Just going to point out that Africans *didn't*
> count
> > as full human (3/5s of a person, I believe was
> > specified, in the matter of population, although
> > of course they did not get 3/5s of a vote in
> elections)
> > to certain framers of the Constitution [#]

I don't recall what I said exactly in the # comment,
but I think it was something like the last sentence of
my paragragh below.
 
> In fairness, my recollection is that it was the
> people who believed
> that Africans *were* fully human, and who thus were
> anti-slavery,
> who argued for the 3/5ths clause.   I believe it was
> the people who
> were pro-slavery that opposed the 3/5ths clause.

<wry>  Is this humor?
 
> Otherwise, white slave-holders would have had their
> voting weight in
> Congress fully accounting for their non-voting
> slaves.

The hypocrisy of having votes for 'non-human-beings'
still stands.  And women were sub-human WRT rights
until the 20th century.  But postponing the war over
slavery was essential to the establishment of the
United States, so it was probably a necessary evil -
for which we continue to pay a heavy price daily.

Debbi
Lived In LA During The Watts Riots Maru

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