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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of pencimen
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:13 PM
> To: Killer Bs Discussion
> Subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there
> is no reliab...
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> Ronn! wrote:
> 
> > What if we spend the >>$10T (Dan's figure) to reduce the
> > anthropogenic component of global warming and then find out that it
> > was not the primary driving cause and we still have to deal with
> > the storms, floods, droughts, famines and hundreds of millions of
> > refugees?  Or if China doesn't want to go along with what the rest
> > of the world does and uses its military to enforce its right to do
> > whatever it chooses to do?  (I suppose "nuclear winter" might
> > indeed be a way to counteract "global warming" . . . )  Or, of
> > course, "all  of the above" . . .

> Then we'll have a cleaner, more efficient world that, having worked
> together and not been entirely successful at solving a problem, can
> use that problem solving experience to face a grave threat to their
> survival.

But, we will also have a much poorer world.  Oil prices have tripled, and
the consumption of oil still increases.  That means, almost by definition,
that there is a tremendous incentive to grow GDP by increasing energy usage.
Dropping world wide energy use by 60% would be overwhelmingly expensive.  In
a real sense, it would reverse most of the productivity gains of the last
20-25 years.
 
> And how is it that we expect China to participate if the so called
> leaders of the world don't?

They will participate if and only if their participation is seen as
benefiting their government.  For example, they are now indicating that they
would oppose any UN action to stop genocide in Danfur unless it is approved
by the government of Sudan...which is sponsoring the genocide.  They also
have tight deals with the Chinese oil companies....which explains the
importance of Sudan to China.

Dan M. 



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