--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Bryon Daly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 10/10/06, maru dubshinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Now, the stranger appears to be absolutely useless, but
nevertheless,
> > removed from the picture the whole thing breaks down in the case
where
> > N = 2. What is the use of the useless stranger?
>
>
> The key here as I see it is that prior to the stranger's announcement,
each
> of the blue-dot natives thinks that either:
> 1) he is red-dot and there is only the one blue-dot native, who in
turn sees
> all red-dot natives
> 2) he is a blue-dot, and the other blue-dot also sees one blue-dot
native.


But how does this work for N(blue) = 4?

The initial state is that each native has two cases:

1) There are three blue-dot natives, and each blue dot native sees two
blue dot natives.

2) There are four blue-dot natives, including himself, and each blue dot
native sees three blue dot natives.

In this case, I don't see how the naturalist provides any additional
information.   In the initial state, every native knows that every other
native knows that there is at least one blue dot.

JDG





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