On 24/10/2006, at 12:05 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Well point us at it, because while you may disagree with their
conclusions, they are indeed scientists. It's possible to disagree
with an analysis without casting someone as a lackey of whatever
conspiracy you want, Especially without providing evidence.
Charlie, it's a long argument across newsgroups and blogs.
RealClimate ITSELF is not the issue, it's an blog. The problem is
with the bias of individual articles, and a lot of them are ghost-
written by PR flacks. (Don't buy the "spare time" thing for 2
seconds).
Collectively, they trash "junk science", which means anything the
consensus of the authors doesn't like. Take something like
http://www.climateaudit.org/, where you can get useful data, by
comparison.
If you're looking to debunk Crichton's pseudo-science, then sure,
read RealClimate. But for the rest...
(http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=realclimate+comment+censorship
&meta=)
Thanks, that's all I was asking for.
Every single climate model developed without global dimming is, as
things stand, a waste of processing time. There is good science to
say that cleaning up our atmosphere might be nothing short of
dangerous - the data on what would cause a runaway heat reaction is
looking gloomier and gloomier as time goes on.
But again, the levels and effects are still not fully understood.
Dismissing entirely a source just because a two year old article
disagrees with your current thinking doesn't seem rational.
"Not understood" in this case means "there are fairly broad margins
of confidence as to the magnitude of the effect", NOT "this is not
significant".
Fair enough.
The data in most cases which is criticised was not considered
especially significant for over 50 years, and was accepted. As soon
as its significant, there are new ways dreamed up to attack it. (From
people who formerly had no issues with it)
That happens. I'll have a trundle about later. Cheers for the link
and pointer...
Charlie
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