On Oct 24, 2006, at 9:01 PM, jdiebremse wrote:

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Oct 22, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 01:27 AM Sunday 10/22/2006, pencimen wrote:

For those few of us who saw the disaster that is Bush coming,

While some voted for Bush primarily because they thought that
President Gore would be an even bigger disaster from which it might
take even longer to undo the damage, if ever.

What, precisely, are you talking about?

Remember, we're talking about 2000 here, not 2004. 9/11 had not
happened yet. We had not been converted into a nation of wusses
who cower in the corner and strip of our clothes while going to
the airport yet. We were still a nation that believed in the
rule of law, who believed that torture was the kind of thing that
the "bad guys" do to their prisoner.

What unmitigated horse-shit.

So, you're saying that it is completely unreasonable for someone to have
thought that Al Gore would be a disaster as President?????

I don't doubt that there are some people who imagine that the future
under the presidency of the opposition candidate as disastrous. I
believe that plenty of campaigns are aimed at bringing voters to
that point.

I retract my "unmitigated horse-shit" comment on a closer reading of
Ronn!'s comment, in which he clearly says that "some" voted for Bush
primarily because they thought that a Gore presidency would be a
disaster.

On the other hand, as I read it, Ronn!'s comment implies that Bush
voters saw two disasters ahead -- the Bush disaster that we are living
and the Gore disaster from which their wise voting presumably saved us
-- and, weighing them, decided that the Bush disaster was the lesser
evil, and voted for Bush on that basis.

I find that difficult to believe. I didn't vote for Gore because I
believed that his presidency would be "less of a disaster" than a Bush
presidency, but because I thought it would not be a disaster. I
posit that most Bush voters felt the same way about a Bush presidency
and I would lay even money that a fair number of them feel that their
trust was badly placed in Bush.

Dave

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