> Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On 07/11/2006, at 5:56 PM, pencimen wrote: 
> >> Charlie wrote:

> >> Still got a long way to go, especially in
> countries where they're
> >> specifically enacting legislation to forbid gay
> marriage. Round and round we go.

> > I agree, but younger people have more tolerant
> attitudes and are more
> > likely to ask why we discourage loving
> relationships.
 
> Yep.

> >> Seeing friends with legal marriage from one
> country recognised in
> >> another, and other friends with legal marriage
> from that country
> >> *not* recognised in the other, purely on gender,
> upsets me greatly.
> >
> > Yes, but twenty years ago we probably wouldn't
> even dream of having
> > this conversation so at least we seem to be making
> good progress.
> 
> To drag this back to the start of this thread and
> Ted Haggard's  
> spectacular self-destruct, it's the closet itself
> that's the problem,  
> and with more and more GLBTs out of the closet,
> we're all learning  
> acceptance. The only way to genuinely combat
> discrimination is  
> exposure to differences. You're right on the
> progress, it's just  
> disheartening to keep having to refight the same
> battles over and over.

I'm not sure who put Referendum I on our ballot (gays
for real civil rights? evangelicals to get the base
out?), but I voted for it [granting legal status for
gay couples who wish to be legally bound].

Rehashing old battles does seem to devour a great deal
of time and energy.

Debbi
Off For A Lesson Maru  
(and what a lovely day it is!)



 
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