> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Charlie Bell > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:55 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: Endless Universe Made Possible By New Model > > > On 01/02/2007, at 1:20 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: > > > > > "This cycle happens an infinite number of times, thus eliminating any > > start or end of time," Frampton said. "There is no Big Bang." > > Um... I thought Big Bang theory doesn't rule out a prior Big Crunch.
It doesn't rule it out because nothing is ruled out, but the mechanism for going from a Big Crunch to a Big Bang is so problematic that it might best be described by waving one's hands and muttering. The reason for this is the state of the universe after virtually every Big Crunch state that could exist and it's state just before the Big Bang are radically different. It's true that both cases could be seen as a singularity. But, the Big Bang starts at a unique point, out of 10^x possible states, where x is a very very big number. Probably > 1 million, but I don't have time to do the estimate this morning. :-) So, it is far more likely for every glass that have fallen off shelves to spontaneously reverse and reconstruct than for the Big Crunch to end in a state that can result in a Big Bang....well at least with known physics. And, for those folks tasked with developing new physics, they could pull untestable mechanisms out of the air, I suppose, but that kind of latitude would allow for almost anything. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
