Ah. We here in the Southwest tend to feel we're the only ones who know anything about Native Americans (blush).
Apologies. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ "'Earth is just a starter planet.' Stephen Colbert" >From: jon louis mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[email protected]> >To: Killer Bs Discussion <[email protected]> >Subject: U.S. health care >Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:16:19 -0700 (PDT) > >You said: "even though i am a skeptic about chanting, gris gris and >juju cures, i never negate the power of suggestion." > >Those aren't supposed to work on the body, or at least not directly. >They are supposed to work on the mind, emotions, cultural background >etc, which will then help the body do its job, or at least not fight >it. It's analogous to explaining the treatment in the language (to >quote the old Episcopalian prayer book) "Understanded of the people." >Because to many traditional people, the ways of our health care system >are not only alien, but in some >cases, repugnant. Heavens - even to me, reared in the system, they are >often repugnant. > >i understand that, pat. i had a brother-in-law who was raised on a >reservation in saskatchewan, and was a medicine man. he tried his >remedies on me, but i lacked faith. i have friends who rely on >positive imaging which is the same thing. i think one of the reasons i >have such excellent health is i have always felt indestructible, which >has allowed me to take the kind of risks which probably resulted in my >back problems. i think stress is also a factor because i don't shrink >from conflict in my life. > > > >"Why do we behave the way we behave? What has become of us? Where is >our soul?" >DUMPED ON SKID ROW - Hospitals drop homeless patients on the city's >Skid Row. >-- jlm > >--The first thing that comes to mind is that this is an expect-able, >albeit immoral, response to the mess that hospitals find themselves in >with regard to treatment of the indigent. >... what is needed is a system in which everyone can get a Chevy, but >you have to pay your own money if you want a BMW. The system we have >now is that... (sic) once a patient is in, they must be afforded the >best care available... This is an overwhelming cost to the hospitals. >(sic) > >i just had routine microsurgery for my lower lumbar region and the bill >was well over $20,000. my in network portion is over $10,000. they >kicked me out after one day with very little followup. i would have >been better off spending the money on prevention and seeking >alternative medicine. > >i suppose hospitals have to compensate for losses when they provide >services for indigent patients like my alcoholic and homeless brother. >the hospital wanted me to sign a release to take him off life support, >but i couldn't do it. miraculously his liver recovered, probably due >to the expensive intensive care he received. the last time he tried to >go into rehab he was refused, so he robbed a bank for $100 and went to >the police station to turn himself in. he spent thirty months in a >federal detention center, which is the longest he has been sober in >forty years... the insurance and pharmaceutical companies seem to be >doing quite well, which is part of the reason my brother became >addicted to prescription medicine when he worked for a think tank and >had great coverage. > > >--This problem is a good one for discussion here. However, it will not >be solved by polemics that provide simple stories with heroes and >villains like that provided by Moore. There is a hard way out for >this, just no easy way out. >Dan M. > >i think michael moore has done a real service with his controversial >documentaries. he doesn't pretend to not have an agenda with >louis armstrong singing "it's a beautiful world" and a collage of all >the world's inhumanities as background, or bush sitting dazed, like a >deer in the headlights, for seven minutes while america is under >attack. >his message is much more powerful than rants by dennis miller, or bill >o'reilly, who also have an agenda. > >i very like the idea of a string health clinics staffed by medics >med techs, nurse-practitioners, and physician assistants - with >doctors on call, so they can be free for important emergencies. i >do believe there are good alternative medicine resources, and some >out right snake oil scams. there are plenty of quacks in the >medical profession, as well, and doctors who are in the profession >for money, think they are god, . even though i am a skeptic about >chanting, gris gris and juju cures, i never negate the power of >suggestion. >--jlm > >Knowledge is Power > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________Yahoo! > >oneSearch: Finally, mobile search >that gives answers, not web links. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC >_______________________________________________ >http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
