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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of jon louis mann
> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 2:23 PM
> To: Killer Bs Discussion
> Subject: Michael Moore
> 
> Moore also noted that his film had been praised by Fox News and that he
> 
> had been complimented by tearful Republicans at Cannes.
> Maybe a person should see a movie before comparing it to The Birth of a
> 
> Nation?
> Doug
> 
> "sicko" is not yet out for general release, but based on his past
> films, to compare "sicko" to "birth of a nation" is like apples and
> zebras.  it may have been a groundbreaking movie at the time, but it is
> also an accurate portrayal of racist america in the context of the day.
>  the intent was to portray blacks as subhuman and had no empirical
> factual basis, as do moore's films.
> http://chnm.gmu.edu/features/episodes/birthofanation.html

Well, if you look at what I wrote, I said:

" I would place Moore's story telling with the 'young buck buying steak with
food stamps story.'

This example of the misuse of food stamps was factually based.  But, I
didn't consider it helpful in a discussion of whether food stamps should be
eliminated.

The reference to Birth of a Nation was a strong example that showed it was
possible to tell a simple story that was not at all helpful.  Even if one
selectively chose facts (e.g. showed only good actions by whites and only
bad actions by blacks) and told no lies, one could have gotten something
that would have close to the racist appeal of that film.

I'll be happy to agree that Moore is not at the level of "Birth of a
Nation."  But, he's not telling the Rosa Parks story as a straight
documentary either.  It's advocacy journalism...the truth is known a priori
and the facts that fit it are assembled as needed.  I don't care much for it
when Lou Dobbs bashes undocumented aliens/illegal immigrants with it, and I
don't care much for it when Moore does it.  Neither helps.

Dan M. 


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