Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
> At 10:21 AM Wednesday 5/23/2007, Dan Minette wrote:
> 
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of jon louis mann
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:04 PM
>>> To: Killer Bs Discussion
>>> Subject: U.S. health care
>>>
>>> "Why do we behave the way we behave?  What has become of us? Where is
>>> our soul?"
>>>
>>> DUMPED ON SKID ROW - Hospitals drop homeless patients on the city's
>>> Skid Row, sometimes dressed in only a flimsy gown and without a wheel
>>> chair, even if they're not healthy enough to fend for themselves.
>>> Anderson Cooper reports on the practice known as "hospital dumping."
>> The first thing that comes to mind is that this is an expectable, albeit
>> immoral, response to the mess that hospitals find themselves in with regard
>> to treatment of the indigent.
>>
>> I have had some extended conversations with my brother-in-law (a physician
>> who has a low income private practice in Northern Michigan (he sees a lot of
>> Medicaid patients, and the area is very poor).  We agreed that what is
>> needed is a system in which everyone can get a Chevy, but you have to pay
>> your own money if you want a BMW.
> 
> 
> I have heard in recent months on other lists reports of children 
> (sometimes grandchildren or nieces/nephews, etc., of listmembers) who 
> were born with multiple problems which required the baby to stay in 
> the hospital for months after birth during which they had to undergo 
> multiple expensive medical procedures of various sorts and in many 
> cases will require extensive care once they are released from the 
> hospital and will have to go back to the hospital several times for 
> more procedures and/or care for unexpected crises caused by the 
> problems they were born with.  In some cases, such special care and 
> repeated hospitalizations will have to continue for the rest of their 
> lives (which in some cases will be cut short while in other cases 
> they may live well into adulthood or even a full, normal life-span 
> but will never be able to become a contributing member of society and 
> in particular will always be a net economic drain).  Even if the 
> necessary care only lasts a few months (a year or less, maybe) and 
> afterward the child is able to live an entirely or mostly normal life 
> and grow up to become a contributing member of society, the costs for 
> the care required during that first year or so may easily run into 
> the hundreds of thousands of dollars (maybe even top a million 
> dollars in some cases, particularly when the problems are due to 
> multiple births and each of the n-uplets requires such care because 
> they were all born with low birth weight).  Such care is certainly in 
> the BMW (or perhaps Ferrrari or Lamborgni) price range, but what 
> should "we" (as a nation, a government, a health-care system, etc.) 
> do about it?  Let us presume as was the case in the cases I have 
> heard of on other lists that the families are ordinary middle-class 
> working people who when it comes to cars typically look for a 
> late-model used Chevy rather than a new car of any type and certainly 
> never imagine themselves owning a BMW (except perhaps in their 
> daydreams when they win the Powerball lottery) and that no one can be 
> considered "at fault" for the problems that the child was born 
> with:  the parents were as far as anyone knew or could tell healthy, 
> did not smoke, drink alcohol, use drugs, work in a factory or other 
> environment where they were exposed to toxic chemicals or use such at 
> home or in some second job or hobby, did not engage in any other 
> risky behaviors, did not have any known genetic defects, had early 
> and regular pre-natal care (during which we presume nothing amiss was 
> detected, or at least not until it was too late medically or legally 
> to do anything about it), nothing untoward happened during labor and 
> delivery, etc.
> 
> How should such cases be addressed by the US health care system?

Well, at present, any baby considered to be a "micro-premie", i.e. 1200 
grams or smaller at birth, gets whatever NICU charges the parents' 
insurance won't cover covered by Medicare -- but you have to apply to 
get that.  So that's one thing that's being done.  But, yeah, that can 
be a million dollars per baby in some cases.  It's a lot more likely to 
happen in the case of multiple births.

(Me, my "Twin B" was over 8 lbs. and we all went home after 2 days -- 
and if we'd stayed another day, it would have been because MY doctor 
wanted ME to, not that the pediatrician was concerned about either of 
the babies.  I can't stand hospitals as a patient (or at least that one, 
aside from when I was born I've stayed overnight in exactly 1 hospital) 
and told the doc that if she really needed to monitor the platelet 
count, my husband could take me somewhere the next morning for a blood 
draw, but I really wanted to go home.  She discharged me.)

        Julia
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