On 2 Sep 2007 at 19:48, Robert Seeberger wrote:

> I suspect that minimizing pollution from energy generation is a more 
> immediately achievable goal. Industrial and manufacturing sources 
> entail a much greater dedication in that it means much greater changes 
> to our lifestyles.

No, not really. The first means, bluntly, nuclear power plants. 5-6 
years minimum to build those.

A good degree of industrial polloution is controllable by regulation 
of acceptable levels and helping companies set up sustainable 
processes - for example, recovering valuable but toxic metals used in 
catalysts like silver is often cost-neutral, but could come with a 
tax break which makes it revenue-producing and thus attractive to 
shareholders.

There's also a huge case for rubbish sorting plants rather than 
expecting everyone to sort their waste to a great degree. It simply 
doesn't happen as-expected. For example, trial pay-as-you-throw 
systems have ended up with reduced recycling rates and increased 
poloution, as a LOT more people then use small "garden incinerators*" 
to ash organics, paper, cardboard etc... not to mention increased 
dumping and tipping of waste, and so on.

(*burning this sort of waste is only a good idea, environmentally, 
when you do it at a rubbish sorting plant, for power)

AndrewC
Dawn Falcon

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