On 28/12/2007, at 11:00 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
>>
> I used "orcas" just because of their (wrong) name, "killer whales",
> since they are more dolphins than whales.

I didn't mean, what's wrong with the name "killer whale". I meant,  
what's wrong with killer whales? Why do orcas give whales (or toothed  
whales, or dolphins) a bad name? Why is their behaviour 'degenerate'  
or whatever?
>
>
>>> (BTW: is it morally right to condemn a race of dogs, even
>>> one so degenerate that it kills children, to extinction?)
>>
>> Again - why is the breed "degenerate"?
>>
> Because they are Evil.

No, that's circular. They're evil, because they're evil. Not an  
argument.

Surely "evil" implies free will? They're vicious, aggresive, strong  
and dangerous. But evil?
>
>
>> They were breed to fight and
>> kill. Yes it's a tragedy when a child is hurt or killed, but no more
>> or less than if a child is taken by a croc or a shark. The dog is
>> simply doing what dogs that are bred that way do.
>>
> The difference is that children should _not_ be afraid of dogs,

Yes they should. Well, maybe not afraid, but wary. Too many kids think  
dogs are toys. They're not, they're pack animals that sometimes  
challenge other junior members of the pack, and kids need to  
understand that dogs, even the most good-natured ones, will  
occasionally get upset when they've been poked and prodded and tugged  
too much.
>
> but should be afraid of crocs or sharks. And pitbulls roam the
> streets disguised as dogs!

They *are* dogs.

>
>
>> However, your question is a good one. My view is this: we created
>> them, we should reverse that. Humanely, of course. They should be
>> sterilised. 10 years, the problem is gone, and we haven't been cruel.
>>
> This is genocide, IMHO.

But you've said they're Evil. So surely Evil should be eradicated?

And it can't be genocide. That is specifically referring to the  
killing of people. Not dogs.

So, anyway - why would eradication of a dangerous breed be wrong? Was  
the eradication of smallpox wrong? The attempted eradication of polio,  
malaria, mosquitoes? Is it wrong to attempt to eradicate cane toads  
from Australia? If no to these, why would it be wrong to eradicate the  
pit bull?

Charlie
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