On Jun 9, 2008, at 8:10 PM, Wayne Eddy wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jon louis mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:32 AM
> Subject: USA Presidential Race
>
>>> Is the implication that voters must either vote for Obama or be
>>> bigots, iow, the only reason anyone would not vote for Obama is
>>> because he is black and they are racist?
>>> . . . ronn! :)
>>
>> i am voting for obama BECAUSE he is black; many more will vote for mc
>> cain to prevent a black man from winning...
>
> I am curious why Obama is being categorised as black?
> Given that his father was black and his mother is white, surely he  
> is brown,
> or more to the point a person or an American?
>
> If he had three grandparents that were white, would he be black,  
> brown,
> gray, white or a person?

In the America in which I grew up: Pittsburgh, PA in the 1960s and 70s,
if you had one drop of (N-word) blood in you, you were a (N-word). Plain
and simple. I am not even slightly surprised that there is plenty of
that going on even today.

The candidacy of a black (by that definition) for POTUS will improve the
perception of blacks in the USA by a tiny, tiny little bit, but only
among people who wouldn't use that definition in the first place. The
_election_ of a black as POTUS might shift it a tiny bit more, but we'd
be damn fools to think that people use a definition like that are
thinking at all.

It should be made very, very clear that I was raised in a highly racist
culture, and find racism to be extremely abhorrent, even as -- or
perhaps better, especially as -- I acknowledge that it lives within me.

Dave

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