> The hadj is another abominable superstition that kills
> people. During the 2006 Hajj 362 pilgrims died.
> If it weren't for superstitious religious nonsense they
> wouldn't have  
> been there in the first place. And  fatal stampedes  happen
> several  
> times every year at religious events so ignorance isn't
> an excuse.
> William T Goodall

i don't dispute any of that william. my point was that plane crashes, ships at 
sea,and rock concerts, etc. also cause panic and death. much of it IS due to 
ignorance, and the kind of miserable conditions that cause people to place 
their faith in redemption or some other nonsense that gives them hope.  

you can't blame everything in the world on religious fanaticism.  religion 
feeds off people's hatred and fear of the other.  another reason why these 
beliefs are so wide spread is greed. that is what you should be ranting about.  

i hate religion as much as you, if not more, but you need to stop blaming the 
victims and find other, more effective ways to criticize the institution.  you 
need to be pragmatic, nt dogmatic; otherwise you are the same as those you 
attack.  i have to wonder why you are so angry; what did religion do to you?
jon


      
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