At 04:15 PM Tuesday 12/23/2008, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote:


> >
> > > Yesterday was the Summer solstice here in the South Pacific and the day
> > > before was cold - only 6 degrees celsius.
> > >
> > > Global warming harumph.
> >
>
> >The fact that it is colder in some places than normal may be a sign of
> >global warming.  I know that some predictions say that global warming will
> >make it colder and wetter here in our part of California because more cold
> >air will be sucked off the Pacific by rising air in a hotter Central
>Valley.
>
> >Global warming will lead to less stable weather and more extremes.
> >Or already is.
>
>
> >From what I understand of the models, that's not quite the consensus.
>Global warming is a long-term trend, not a year by year trend.  In
>addition, we know that the weather had other variables, like the hurricane
>cycle (30s-40s many hurricanes, 70s-80s few, '00s many, or the La Nina/El
>Nino variation.
>
>Overall, this last year has been the coolest in the decade.  This doesn't
>mean there is more variation than usual. For example, we've not had another
>dust bowl of the '30s.
>
>To first order, one should expect a general warming, and pattern changes
>with global warming.  Most models predict more rain overall.  The patterns
>of drought may not be more vicious, we're just more globally connected now.
>The data on hurricanes, in particular, is hard to pinpoint, because we can
>not name a tropical storm that just reaches 40 mph in the mid-Atlantic, or
>catch a hurricane at its peak of 155 to make it a cat 5, even though it
>ramped up and down fast, and hit land as only a cat 2.
>
>So, if one applies a fairly heavy, say 15 year filter, to the data, one
>sees global warming.  If one looks for general regional trends, they are
>probably still mostly in the noise, but may energe later (in fact I'd be
>surprised if none emerged later).
>
>Dan M.


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