agree. The reason for this is that we only have a relativley small number of venues and (more importantly I think) td's. That means there is no real competiton for Tour bids and so the people that do bid for them can charge what they like (not in any way a dig at people that run Tour's, I'd do exactly the same thing) Now we can all say "well get off your arse and organise one" but we've been saying that for 5 years and we've still got the same situation as we did then. It's not going to change in a hurry. Not even changing the tour structure to allow for smaller venues has made a difference. Only a massive increase in competiton or some sort of change in how the UKU award tournaments is going to change that. Ali Brighton Ultimate
Rebecca Forth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear anyone still interested in the debate: I'd just like to throw into the debate: The price of tours. I am really beginning to feel tournament directors are charging far too much and each year they escalate. With 50+ teams attending. The level of profit is ridiculous and over and above for the level of work. In the past there have been two main arguments for increased tournament feees : 1) If you want better pitch/off pitch services then you have to pay for them 2) If you don't like it run a tournament yourself I do not believe we have had any better services. You can see that efforts are being made. But are they really improving services and do they justify the level of TD profit at the expense of ultimate players? We've still had holey dry fields with not enough water, been asked to take scoreboards/set cones out and in some tours the end of game signal hasn't even been clear. The second argument, that you should run one yourself if you don't like the current options, is not the way forwards, because everyone who does choose to enter the tournament business (and it is a business in this country like nowhere else in the world!) charges the same amount as previous TD's and reaps the profits. And those charges are only escalating. If we are forced to pay through the nose for a tournament it would be good if the UKU benefitted so they can implement many of the suggested future initiatives. I also think that the profits of the tours should be published. This way the UKU can take a percentage of those profits. Whilst also maintaining a cap on tournament fees. Many of us dedicate a vast amount of money and time to our sport - it would be nice to also feel like you weren't being taken for a ride everytime you enter a tour. Bex Bliss - The age old argument about price for a tour The pitches were no better, I saw one petrol can filled of water all weekend by our pitches. Should we really be paying �160 for a weekend for these -- Rebecca Forth Colt Foundation Research Fellow Portex Anaesthesia, Intensive Therapy & Respiratory Unit Institute of Child Health 30 Guilford Street London WC1N 1EH __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online? __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp
