[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As a student player i would like to agree that the triple elimination system > which is run for some tournaments is possibly the worst idea currently > opperating in the sport.
Some tournaments? By popular vote, those tournaments now number at least 12: all Indoor & Outdoor Regionals in the University Division. I hope you took the opportunity to discuss your concerns with your club and ensure they were raised in advance of the vote. If you still feel this way in a years time, feel free to propose a motion to overrule this vote and the same old ground can be covered by a new group of Uni clubs. <CW> > The way i understand it the system was brought in to ensure that the best > teams in the tournament end up in the highest places. Correct. This has been laboriously discussed on UU. Take a quick look at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uniultimate/message/3119 And more generally the thread around March of this year [and November of 2003 if you want to go way back...] The full document endorsed by the recent UU vote can be found at http://www.ukultimate.com/uniultimate/qualifierformats.pdf <CW> > In my experience > this very rarely happens as the team that loses in the final is often faced > with a playoff directly after and then the possibility of a third game after > that! How fair is it to expect a team who have fought through to the final > to then play 3 games back to back end possibly end up in > 5th or 6th for the effort? Can you quantify your experience more thoroughly? I've heard only one team vehemently deny that the best three were qualified from their region, and it just so happens their region were pretty strong this year. Most people I've talked to agree that TE got it right. Jon has been good enough to take a further look at the formats, and the Championship game can now be scheduled more flexibly given some other changes. Oh, and it was never possibly for a team to be in the final and then end up 5th & 6th. If you're presenting an argument, please make it more thoroughly researched. <CW> > Also....the way triple elimination works the final of a tournament is played > pretty early to allow time for all the subsequent playoffs/crossovers/calls >/handshakes etc. Now call me old fasioned but isnt the whole point of a final > that it is the FINAL game of a tournament where the best 2 teams play each > other to determine the winners and, above all, put on a really good show for > all the other competitiors who havnt been fortunate enough to reach that > stage? Well, I've always been careful to refer to the Championship game with its rightful title, and not the misleading 'final' when it isn't necessarily scheduled as the last game of the weekend. I also believe the Game To Go has every chance of being a tight, well fought encounter with a greater degree of tension. And, as Stuart said, with enough pitches, the Championship game can still be scheduled such that everyone else can watch. With some of your concerns addressed in the new qualifiers document [have you read it?], I hope the season ahead includes two well-run and enlightening instances of TE tournaments. [Hint to all Uni clubs: please start bidding for events as soon as possible!] Regards, -- Rich Hims www.leeds55.demon.co.uk __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp
