I'm quite sure that any moves to do enforce squad limits would be
detrimental to the growth of the game & to the quality of our ultimate
in this country.

Teams have the choice of coming to a tournament with 12, 16, 25 or any
number of players and there are trade-offs in the different approaches.
A small squad lets the players gel more, getting benefits from increased
understanding and momentum; whereas a larger squad has more depth giving
fitness benefits and a larger sideline.  No squad size is better than
any other as general rule, it depends on what an individual team wants
to do.
I've won tour tournaments in teams of 10-11 players against much larger
squads, and equally won with squads of 20+.

It will be detrimental to the growth and quality of ultimate teams
because teams wouldn't be able to build for the future if only some
could come to tournaments - there wouldn't be room for younger, newer
players who have potential, and quality-wise we'd be back to the
standards of 4-5 years ago where even tour finals were horrible
turnover-ridden error-fests.  It might be more exciting to watch (I
actually don't think it would be), but on a world stage our teams would
get out-classed.  We're closer now to north American teams than ever
before because we've finally able to assemble squads with a depth to
match theirs.

The bottom line is that teams should be able to choose squad composition
and numbers as they think best - we shouldn't be trying to impose
constraints on this.

alex 

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Sent: 18 September 2006 11:31
To: [email protected]
Subject: [BD] Reducing squad sizes

Ok, so for those of you that helpfully pointed out that I had offered
nothing
to the debate either, pot/kettle etc accepted. 

I think Bens idea of reducing squad sizes to 16 (or some other arbitrary
number) is a good one, here's why:

I would like it to happen because:
1.  Presently squads have risen to the point that many top teams have
players
who rarely play more than a few points in a game.  Having benched
players
just doesnt seem right to me (but yes its up to them)

2.  At international level the squads have reached the point at which
some
countries are reportedly bringing "sun-Wed players" to get them through
early
rounds before moving on to the later rounds.

3.  Would create more of a level playing field for everyone

4. May stop superteams hoovering up all the emerging talent and lead to
more
growth in the sport.  

5. I believe fitness should play a part in the sport.  When you get
tired,
Ultimate is harder because your brain goes before your legs, hence more
"interesting"
choices, more turnovers, more excitement. Does anyone really find no
turnover
ultimate exciting?  Granted we arent there yet but world ultimate is
getting
there.

Heres why it wont happen:

1. International tournaments require more players than that (Personally
I
would cap these at 20, 21, or 23). 
2. WFDF have not shown any interest in changing this rule
3. Tough on teams who have 17 players?  Play in 2 squads.
4. Schedules are too tough at the moment.  

I think we should be pushing WFDF for bringing in some ruling about the
squad
sizes at international tournaments to level the playing field there
(Japanese
brought 35 I think to Worlds), have lower levels for weekend long
events,
and bring the same principles down through the structure at home.

I think the sport has gone too far, with several players playing less
than
20 points over a weekend (less than 2 per hour), despite the scheduling
alledgedly
being "too tough" with back to back games etc.  

In actual fact I think the top players wouldnt notice any difference,
cos
they all pitch hog anyway and the "domestiques" on the team would enjoy
everything
a lot more.  

Any thoughts?  Constructive only please.  

Dave.


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