Surely Open & Womens should be the same weekend - leaving you with only 8 weekends taken...
Bear #1 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IndoorsDOC Sent: 16 February 2007 11:47 To: Oscar; [email protected]; UU UniUltimate Subject: [BD] Re: Student Ultimate - Taking over the world? It appears that next year's provisional calendar does indeed only have one weekend for each Uni fixture, as I discovered when I opened the very next email in my inbox. Timing, eh? Great minds think alike or something like that... Anyway, we can still debate the point - why are uni events seen as so important? Benji Crawling back into his little hole... At 11:29 16/02/2007, IndoorsDOC wrote: >Due to laxness in some of the University regions, a clash has >developed between UKU Open Indoor Nationals and some regional >university outdoor qualifiers. This has meant 3 things: > >1) Oscar has to work to chase up teams who aren't yet sure whether >they're free that weekend to attend nationals, despite the dates >being announced over a year ago. > >2) Nationals again looks, despite my best efforts, like a nonsense >schmindoors pissabout event that no-one cares about. > >3) Non-student members of the teams who've had to pull out of >Nationals are left without any ultimate to play at all that weekend. >They've probably already booked fridays off work and such. Pretty annoying. > >The point of this email is to raise a serious discussion - is >student ultimate getting too big for its boots? Is it not ludicrous >that student tournaments should be seen as more important than Open >tournaments? I don't just mean this one, which could be explained as >outdoors being more important than indoors; I mean in general, >student ultimate is seen as the only competitive level outside the >tour. Certainly student indoors is more prestigious than club >indoors. This is stupid in terms of the future development of the >sport away from it's traditional Uni base towards school and local >club participation. > >Look at the facts - the universities now have 12 events >(Open/Mixed/Womens, Indoor/Outdoor, Regionals/Nationals). >In the calendar, they demand two possible weekends for each of them, >in case venues aren't available. That's 24 weekends a year, very >nearly half the year. Take out things like Christmas and new year, >and it IS half the available year. And still, despite these dates >being agreed way in advance, a clash develops because 2 weekends >isn't enough to find a bid... > >Anyway, forget that whinge, the point is that 24 weekends a year is >insane. There's been mention of the idea that the tour is driving >out other tournaments, and preventing the growth of ultimate. That's >nothing compared to the strangling effect of 24 weekends of Student >tournaments. If you plan to run a tournament, and look at the >calendar, you won't find a space. > >This is not a dig at Ed and Felix, who've done a great job with >student ultimate. Possibly too good a job. Felix's pet Ladder League >project, for one, could certainly benefit from a few more available weekends. > >One solution would be to only give one week for each student >tourney. At a stroke, 12 weekends open up in the calendar. What this >means is that Unis would have to book events early, and possibly >look a little harder for venues. But the current situation is >massively unfair on every non-student tournament organiser in the country. > >Benji > >PS >1) Yes I'm aware I've written a lot on BD lately, but dammit I've >got a big mouth... >2) Yes I'm aware that I need to liaise better with Kev Lowe about >Junior Indoors to avoid that clash. We'll work on it. Tell you what, >if we could clear out some of these student weekends, it wouldn't be >a problem... ;) > > >At 21:26 15/02/2007, Oscar wrote: >>BD, >>I am still yet to hear from Cardiff regarding their place at Open Indoor >>Nationals. >>The deadline I set was tomorrow so please can somebody from Cardiff get in >>touch and let me know if you are going to take up your spot. >>Also, there may be one or two spots not taken up. I'm not sure how these >>spots will be allocated but one would certainly be available to Uriel should >>they want it? >>Could someone from Uriel (Pretty Boy?) please get in touch and let me know >>if they would want to take a spot should it become available. >>Any other teams that mey want to play. Watch this space, there may be an >>offer comingout early next week. >>Thanks to everyone else who has already responded. If you haven't >>e.mailedGrant regarding your accomodation requirements etc. please do >>so so that we >>can begin to get organised and not leave things until the last minute. He >>will be chasing you up next week if you don't get in touch with him first. >>Cheers all, >>Oscar >>Open (sorry, Club) Indoor Nationals TD. >> >>-- >>The e.mail of the species is more deadly than the mail. >>__________________________________________________ >>BritDisc mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >>Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp
