I had assumed that EUCS was intended to run in the three off-years between EUCC.
To me, it would make sense to have EUCF events for three years, when no other european club competition is available (obviously excepting copenhagen etc) and then in every fourth year revert to the EUCC. I say this because I dont really see how EUCC would differ dramatically from an EUCF event, with the exceptions being the importnant draw/need to have a mixed tournament and also that every country gets to send representatives rather than relying on qualification through a regionals which risk one country (ie GB clubs taking all three spots this year) dominating. Whilst the EUCF is aimed at elite development, the EUCC gives you the chance to become the "official" European champions - im not taking away from clapham's achievements in making two finals in a row and winning EUCF this year - but it seems a shame to potentially scrap the opportunity to win the prestigious title. And as was said, EUCF has no Mixed division - i think, until EUCF grows enough to host a mixed event as well, either on a separate weekend or alongside, then the EUCC should stay, at least for 2009. Then by 2013, things might/should have developed sufficiently to maybe dispense with EUC, and make the yearly EUCFs the ones to go to to secure the euro champs title. I can see EUCC becoming redundant eventually, but i just think scrapping the 2009 event doesnt make sense just yet. *** Incidentally, opening a side debate, would a mixed EUCF division alongside the open and womens be detrimental? Or make clubs focus in either open/womens or mixed? If it was alongside, more people would be able to play and develop, rather than the same players from Fire and Iceni (just an example, no finger pointing) combining into IF to try for glory in both divs.... Is club focus on mixed vs open needed/possible yet? *** anyway, my thoughts, off the top of my head. Please dont bite it off, its been a long day - but constructive responses are welcomed... Tom --- Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > There have been a number of references from Open > teams planning for EUCC > 2009. > > For my own part - I can't really see how we can have > two European club > championships in one year for Open and Women's > divisions. I also believe > the EUCS competition is the more important because > we need such a > competition to be annual. Nonetheless we can't just > "throw away" EUCC > because for example EUCS has no mixed division! > > I'd be interested to hear some views on how you > think this tournament should > sit alongside EUCS. > > As far as I'm aware no decision on this question has > been made yet - and any > process to make the decision is somewhat stalled > while the EFDF is replaced > by the new "European Ultimate Federation". (No > criticism intended regarding > that process - just reporting the facts.) > > Si > > > Simon Hill, UK Ultimate Association > Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype: ukua.admin > Postal address: UK Ultimate Association, LONDON WC1N > 3XX > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > peter robert wright > > Sent: 07 November 2007 21:23 > > To: [email protected]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [BD] Fire 2008 > > > > Dear All, > > > > It's our turn..... > > > > 'Fire of London' are recruiting players for the > 2008 season. > > We are looking to build a strong and committed > squad to > > challenge for EUCS (Nationals) and EUCF 2008, with > the UKUA > > Tour as valuable preparation. We also want to > build a strong > > core of players to work towards EUCC 09 and > WUGC10. > > > > If you are interested in being part of this, read > on. > > > > > > (1) Play at the London Winter League with Fire > > > > Instead of official trials, we are inviting > potential squad > > members to play with Fire in the London Winter > League. It's a > > great chance for you to play alongside some of the > current > > Fire squad and for us to see you play in a > competitive > > situation against different opposition. > > > > The dates for winter league are: > > Sunday 18 November 2007 > > Sunday 9 December 2007 > > Sunday 13 January 2008 > > Sunday 10 February 2008 > > > > These events are being held on Wimbledon Common > where > > Nationals were staged this year. > > > > > > (2) Play at our 3 on 3 'mini' tournament > > > > We are also running a 3 on 3 'mini' tournament on > the 12th of > > January (the day before the winter league), where > potential > > squad members will be teamed up with current Fire > players. > > Not only will this be a lot of fun, but it's the > perfect > > opportunity to show us what you can do. > > > > > > (3) If you are interested... > > > > If you are interested, please contact: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > (with 'FIRE 2008' in the subject line), saying > which of the > > LWL events you can play and whether you will be > attending the > > mini-tournament. > > > > > > Please also include the following information: > > . Ultimate-playing experience (clubs etc) > > . Address, > > . Anything that might limit your > availability for practices > > (including mid week evening practices) and > tournaments. > > > > > > We are looking for players with: > > . Commitment to practice, fitness and > tournaments > > . Enthusiasm and willingness to learn > > . Potential for improvement > > . 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