Surely if you are the one who has called a pick and you realise that your call 
did not affect the play then you should decline it anyway, whether it was a 
turnover OR a point?> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:53:43 +0100> From: [EMAIL 
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Re: How would you react?> > Derryk Boyd wrote:> > In the scenario you described 
17.2 or 17.3 do not apply, therefore the rules starte quite clearly that there 
cannot be a turnover, it should also mean that any completed pass should be 
returned regardless of wether the call affected play. I think this is easier to 
police than having people argue over what did and didnt affect play, and the 
solution to the problem could be for players to think a second longer before 
making an unnecesary pick or foul call.> > > Difficult, though - I often wait a 
second before calling a pick, to see > if it affects play, and all I get is 
argument that the guy was 8 yards > away from me when I made the call - which 
of course is true, but only > because I was picked a second earlier than the 
call was made...> > I think the rules need to be written the way they are, that 
the game > should stop when a call is made unless continuation is in effect. 
But > Dave G's point (I think?) is about whether spirit overrides the rules or 
> the rules override spirit. Is spirit something we use only when the > rules 
aren't clear, or do we appeal to it to override rules such as this > even when 
they are clear?> > The rules about stoppages need to be written so as to offer 
a simple > solution on those occasions when it's not clear whether play was > 
affected - like you say, this is easier to police - but when it's > 
/absolutely/ clear that play was /not/ affected, do we override those > rules 
with an appeal to spirit or not? I doubt that everyone would give > the same 
answer to that.> > B> __________________________________________________> 
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