The government and all associated departments have an "international sport" clause - if you trawl either through your lea's pay contract or the council itself you should find some clause somewhere. Occasionally councils have it as unpaid leave, but nearly all councils/lea's and all government departments have paid leave.
Schools will get a cover teacher paid for them by the lea/council which is reimbursed centrally so the school itself won't lose out financially. Generally the clause includes some kind of warm up/warm down/travel time. I got 2 1/2 weeks paid leave for Perth. Nicole p.s. I imagine a lot of civil servants will now be asking for special leave for Paga! ----- Original Message ---- From: Linz Wilkinson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:08:08 PM Subject: Re: [BD] BritDisc Digest, Vol 66, Issue 8 Paul, all, It's interesting that one of your observations is that junior tournaments are being held at different times, which are supposed to be more convenient. The planning of Junior Europeans this summer was ideal for juniors [and most coaches, otherwise we probably wouldnt have signed up]. That said, it wasnt convenient at all that Tour 3 / Nationals was, for whatever reason, moved to take place on the same weekend. I know that this will be due to bids [or lack thereof] and all the other usual reasons, however it's certainly not convenient at all for junior players who are now forced to choose between playing for their tour team at nationals, and representing their country and Junior Europeans. Personally, I dont think it matters whether they are playing for top teams [several junior boys with Chevy, junior girls playing for top womens teams] or not- the tour/nationals would have been an important opportunity for more experience, and most juniors I know of love playing with their clubs. We also already have a climate where it's difficult enough to find managers and coaches who want to help out with juniors, and there seems to be little recognition for the work and time we get given to do these roles. To find that we now have no choice but to give up playing at nationals to do the roles to which we have already committed definitely isnt convenient. Personally the only reason this doesnt effect me this year is because of my own injury, but there are several other coaches / players who Im sure are disappointed that they wont have the opportunity to play nationals because of prior commitment to juniors and the change of dates for T3. I wasnt going to bring this up, but as a teacher [who doesnt get paid for time off to play at international tournaments, not sure how you manage that, Nicole] and GBJW coach with commitments as both a player and juniors coach, it certainly seems that better decisions could have been made regarding the timing of several important tournaments this year...something else to consider in the future... Linz LLLeeds/GBJW U20 Manager > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Paul Holden > Sent: 11 March 2009 23:57 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BD] BritDisc Digest, Vol 66, Issue 8 > > A couple of observations, not counter arguments, just observations: > > This tournament does not have a Junior division. The Junior > tournament(s) is/are being held separately, hopefully at a more suitable > time for Juniors. The finals will be held over the weekend so there > seems less of an issue for bringing junior spectators. > > There are a number of financial issues with holding a tournament within > the school holidays. Flights and accommodation are both more expensive, > often significantly so. > > I don't know if either of these has had a bearing on recent scheduling > but I can see that they might have done and the second will always, I > would suggest, be a significant issue. > > Regards, > Paul Holden mailto: [email protected] > > Iain wrote: > > I think whilst, not a very constructive reply, it does highlight a few > > points ;-) and think this may well be worth a britdisc discussion. > > > > 1. Historically these tournaments used to fall during school holidays. > > For some reason this pattern has changed over the past few years with > > more and more of the key tournaments falling inside term time. Has > > this process been a conscious decision to move things later in the > > year or a mere accident? > > > > 2. There are a large number of teachers in the Ultimate community, it > > seems there is a link between those who play frisbee and are drawn to > > teaching. It may be the relaxed lifestyle and holidays to suit your > > ultimate needs or it may be that the link is quite accidental. > > Selfishly, as a teacher, I would like tournaments to fall in times > > when holidays are possible, but understand my career path has certain > > positives and negatives. My school is fairly understanding but I > > haven't really pushed them too far yet. But... > > > > 3. ...the future of Ultimate is moving in a younger direction. > > University Ultimate has developed into a for BUCS event and the focus > > is being moved onto a younger generation. Having tournaments like this > > during term time makes it harder for school children to attend, not > > only do they have to miss school but the main contact (i.e. the > > teacher, for parents etc.) is tied up at work as well. > > > > 4. ...university students would also find it easier to attend these > > tournaments if they did not fall in term time. I know i never missed a > > tournament because of "university commitments" but some will be more > > conscientious than I was. > > > > 2009/3/11 Andrew allen <[email protected]>: > >> Find another career? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I'm sure you knew when applyed to become a teacher that you would not be > able to take holiday during term time! > >> > >>> From: [email protected] > >>> Subject: BritDisc Digest, Vol 66, Issue 8 > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:00:04 +0000 > >>> > >>> Send BritDisc mailing list submissions to > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >>> than "Re: Contents of BritDisc digest..." > >>> > >>> > >>> Today's Topics: > >>> > >>> 1. Official announcemnt of EFDF Calender 2009 - XEUCF 2009 > >>> -London - Sept. 24-27 (peter robert wright) > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:11:21 +0000 > >>> From: peter robert wright <[email protected]> > >>> Subject: [BD] Official announcemnt of EFDF Calender 2009 - XEUCF 2009 > >>> -London - Sept. 24-27 > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Message-ID: > >>> <[email protected]> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >>> > >>> "XEUCF...is a 4 days (Thursday to Sunday) tournament, which will be > played > >>> from Sept. 24th to 27th 2009 in London (closed to Heathrow Airport)." > >>> > >>> I know this is a very late reaction to this email.....!, > >>> > >>> but is there no way that they can make these events at the end of a > half > >>> term, so that students/juniors (who are increasingly playing for > top-flight > >>> teams) and teachers can attend them. > >>> > >>> I am sure that my employers are getting fed up of me asking for time > off, > >>> and I am tiring of asking. With 4 teachers likely to make fire's squad > for > >>> that event, it will have a significant impact. > >>> > >>> Is this taken into consideration? Are the holiday dates different > throughout > >>> europe (is that why this date has been chosen?). Is it because there > were no > >>> more bids? Is it too late to change it? > >>> > >>> Rodders (teacher) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 2008/12/23 Wayne Retter (aka Wrecker) <[email protected]> > >>> > >>>> from EuroDisc... > >>>> --- > >>>> Wayne 'Wrecker' Retter > >>>> wayne[dot]wrecker[at]ntlworld[dot]com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: Furlan, Andrea > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Cc: EFDF Board ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 9:57 AM > >>>> Subject: [ED] Official announcemnt of EFDF Calender 2009 - XEUCF 2009 > >>>> -London - Sept. 24-27 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Dear European Ultimate Community, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Finally we can publish the EFDF Calendar 2009! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> In 2009 a new tournament format, called XEUCF will be played instead > of > >>>> separate EUCC and EUCS. > >>>> > >>>> The XEUCF combines in one tournament the benefits of the EUCC and the > EUCS: > >>>> > >>>> a.. All medals will be assigned in one tournament, without risking to > have > >>>> 2 EFDF tournaments potentially competing for being the most important > >>>> tournament in 2009 > >>>> b.. Costs will be reduced for most players, who planned to attend both > >>>> separate EUCC and EUCS > >>>> c.. There will be many more inter-regional matches as in EUCC > >>>> d.. The season will be stretched till end of September in almost all > >>>> nations, giving a reason to many teams to keep on train intensively > also > >>>> during the summer as in the EUCS. > >>>> e.. Team rosters will be defined early in the season using the EUCS > >>>> eligibility rules. > >>>> f.. Seeding will be mostly based on results of 2009 EFDF competitions > and > >>>> not on those from the previous year. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> This tournament format is possible only because some organizers were > able > >>>> to run a tournament of EUCC size also in fall, which was not clear > when > EFDF > >>>> asked for separate bids for EUCC and EUCF in 2009. Unfortunately the > initial > >>>> winner of the XEUCF bid had to face major problems, which finally made > him > >>>> withdraw the bid, forcing EFDF to go for "plan B", which turned out to > be as > >>>> good as the original winning bid! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> What is the XEUCF? > >>>> > >>>> XEUCF means eXtended European Ultimate Championship Final and it will > be > >>>> played as pilot in 2009. > >>>> > >>>> This is a 4 days (Thursday to Sunday) tournament, which will be played > from > >>>> Sept. 24th to 27th 2009 in London (closed to Heathrow Airport). > >>>> > >>>> The tournament has 4 divisions: Open, Women, Mixed and Master. > >>>> > >>>> All pitches will be at the same site and there will be space for about > 100 > >>>> teams. > >>>> > >>>> The winner of each division will be crowned European Club Champion > 2009. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> How can teams qualify for XEUCF? > >>>> > >>>> Whenever possible the results of the national championship (EUCQ) 2009 > will > >>>> be considered for the national ranking and so for the qualification to > >>>> XEUCF. > >>>> > >>>> There are different qualification steps between Open and the other > >>>> divisions. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Women/Mixed/Master Division > >>>> > >>>> For these divisions the qualification process is very similar to the > EUCC > >>>> one. > >>>> > >>>> Each nation member of the EFDF will be allowed to send 1 team per > division. > >>>> > >>>> Wild cards will be given to nations according to their placements in > the > >>>> last WFDF and EFDF competitions. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Open > >>>> > >>>> The successful EUCS format (http://www.eucs.efdf.org/) will be > applied > in > >>>> the open division, with 3 selection stages: EUCQ, EUCR and XEUCF. > >>>> > >>>> Teams, who qualified for the EUCR, will be allowed to register to > XEUCF > >>>> (max 16 per region) according to the EUCR bid allocation rules in each > >>>> region. > >>>> > >>>> The initial selection of the max 64 teams will be performed during > EUCR > and > >>>> teams registered for XEUCF will be grouped into at least 3 divisions > (Open1 > >>>> for the top16, Open2, Open3, .). Bid allocation for the XEUCF-Open1 > division > >>>> is based on the results of the EUCF2008. The CSC will decide how to > >>>> distribute the bids for the Open2, Open3, etc. division. > >>>> > >>>> There will be a small overlapping between the divisions at XEUCF, so > that > >>>> for instance, a team from the Open2 can finish max 9th, etc. > >>>> > >>>> The final ranking of the XEUCF will be used to define the bid > allocation > >>>> for the EUCF2010 according to the standard EUCF Bidding Allocation > System ( > >>>> http://www.eucs.efdf.org/2008/eucfbids.html). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> What do federations need to do now? > >>>> > >>>> Federations must deliver to the EUF Board (bids2009 (at) efdf.org) > within > >>>> February 15th 2009 the number of teams, which are interested in > playing > in > >>>> each division at XEUCF. > >>>> > >>>> Please notice: No answer means that no team in any division will come, > so > >>>> the bids pre-reserved for the nation will be offered to other ones. > >>>> > >>>> Within March 15th 2009 the EUF Board will communicate the number of > bids > >>>> each nation has in each division. > >>>> > >>>> In the divisions where a selection at national/sectional level must be > >>>> made, because a nation as more interested teams than available spots, > EUCQ > >>>> (=National Championship or ad-hoc tournament) should be played before > May > >>>> 31st 2009. > >>>> > >>>> If a Nation has exactly as many bids for XEUCF as the teams interested > in > >>>> playing in that division, no real selection is needed, so EUCQ can be > played > >>>> anytime before EUCR (only for Open) or before Sept. 7th. The results > will be > >>>> used for the XEUCF seeding. > >>>> > >>>> Sept. 7th 2009 is the last date when EUCQ2009 and EUCR2009 results can > be > >>>> considered for the XEUCF. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> If it is not possible to hold the EUCQ before the given deadlines, > >>>> federations are kindly asked to get in touch with the EUF Board > (bids2009 > >>>> (at) efdf.org) to find a solution. > >>>> > >>>> RCS will provide as soon as possible the date and location of the > EUCRs, so > >>>> that Open teams can plan with large advance these tournaments. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Deadline summary: > >>>> > >>>> Feb. 15th 2009: Federation prove number of wished bids per division > >>>> > >>>> Mar. 15th 2009: EUF Board publish bids distribution in each division > >>>> > >>>> May-June 2009: XEUCF registration deadline (not fixed yet) > >>>> > >>>> Aug. 2009: EUCRs in all regions for the Open division > >>>> > >>>> Aug./Sept. 2009: XEUCF Final Payment > >>>> > >>>> Sept. 7th 2009: National/Regional seeding is defined. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I hope that this late publication of the EFDF calendar does not cause > you > >>>> too many troubles in defining your national one. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> In name of the EFDF/EUF and the CSC I wish you a > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Marry Christmas and an exiting & high spirited Ultimate Season 2009 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Ciao > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Oddi > >>>> > >>>> - EUCS - Together for the growth of Ultimate in Europe - > >>>> > >>>> www.eucs.efdf.org > >>>> __________________________________________________ > >>>> BritDisc mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > >>>> Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > >>>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> BritDisc mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > >>> Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> End of BritDisc Digest, Vol 66, Issue 8 > >>> *************************************** > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place - Learn more! > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ > >> __________________________________________________ > >> BritDisc mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > >> Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > >> > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
