Aha, it makes sense now! Thanks for clarifying. Steve.
UKU Director of Competitions wrote: > It's all about time wasting - if you're three ahead with five minutes > left, and you just stand around or fake an injury, then you can't fail > to be 2 ahead at the buzzer. Not that most teams would do that, but you > must admit that we make very little effort to control time between > points and such. > > Therefore, we always make the leading team score one or two MORE points > after time is up, and there's no point in time wasting at all. > > B > > Steve Jones wrote: >> I'm sure this has been covered many times before, but no-one's been able >> to explain it to my satisfaction: Why is there a mandatory soft cap? If >> there's two points or more between the teams, why doesn't the game just >> stop when the time's up (after finishing the current point)? >> >> If the team is winning 10-2, there's probably no need to finish at 12, >> as the result's in the bag. Similarly, if the score is 10-8, there >> should be no complaints from the losing side - the other team had more >> points, therefore they won. Simple. I believe that's how most other >> sports do this. >> >> I understand the need for the soft and hard cap rules (a win-by-two rule >> alone would lead to some incredibly long games), but why is it >> implemented with no regard to the win-by-two rule? >> >> Steve. >> >> >> UKU Director of Competitions wrote: >> >>> It's dead simple. Really, it is. >>> >>> There is a soft cap which, when reached and and ahead by 2, ends the >>> game. There is also a hard cap which ends the game when reached >>> regardless of whether you're ahead by 2. Standard practice is to refer >>> to the soft cap in the rules - game to 13 means the soft cap is 13. The >>> hard cap is always 2 higher, so would be 15. >>> >>> When time is up, it reduces the hard cap to 2 more than the highest >>> score at the end of that point. So if you're up 12-0, the hard cap >>> becomes 14, not 15. But the /soft cap remains unaffected /- you'll still >>> win if you make it 13-0, 13-1, 13-2, etc up to 13-11. The only >>> difference is that if it goes to 12 all, and then 13-all, the game will >>> be won at 14 (and not 15 as it would if time was still running). >>> >>> Time ending will NOT make your game longer. >>> >>> B >>> >>> Graham McGill wrote: >>> >>>> Could I ask for some clarification on the "win-by-two" rule mentioned >>>> in the Tour 2 schedule. >>>> >>>> Below is a paragraph from the Notes: >>>> >>>> "Hard Cap: >>>> Games always finish if one team reaches the hard cap, regardless of >>>> whether there is a two point margin. The hooter causes the hard cap >>>> to be reduced to two above the highest score at the end of that >>>> point. For example, if the hooter goes during the 11-11 point, the >>>> hard cap will be reduced to 14, so the final score will either be >>>> 13-11 (game to 13, win by 2 still applies), 14-12, or 14-13 (from >>>> 13-13 - hard cap reached). If the hard cap is set at 15 in a game >>>> which is 13-12, the game can still be won 14-12 under the win-by-two >>>> rule." >>>> >>>> The win by two rule isn't mentioned in the Rules, only in the Notes. >>>> The Rules just states: >>>> "90/75 minute game, finish the point, add cap of 2" >>>> >>>> I understand the concept of win-by-2, but when did it start being a >>>> rule at Tour? >>>> >>>> It was my understanding that, in the example above, hooter goes at >>>> 11-11, finish the point (resulting in 11-12) so game is to 14. How >>>> can you win 11-13 after adding a 2 point cap at 11-12?! >>>> >>>> Could this be clarified, preferably both online and at the captains' >>>> meeting since I won't be online again before I have to leave. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Graham >>>> Abstract 22 >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> BritDisc mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >>>> Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> BritDisc mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >>> Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed >>> >> >> >> > __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
