> > Would the properties still end up in the show-linkprop output?  If so,
 > > even well-behaved admins are still subjected to a mountain of properties
 > > that they shouldn't even be using, which seems bad.  Or are you proposing
 > > some way to hide these properties?  (I'm nervous about that as well.)  If
 > > we're sure this stuff will be off the beaten path, maybe we could reduce
 > > the number of properties to just `cap', `advcap', and `lpadvcap' (or
 > > somesuch) with a commas-separated list of values?
 > 
 > What we really need is a simple UI for managing the "common" tunables 
 > (and maybe exposing them as "properties" isn't the best way to handle 
 > this!  see for example the way we handle WIFI "properties" for SSID... 
 > they have their own subcommands)

Right, that was the thinking behind that breakdown.  But I think most of
the tunables we've been discussing *aren't* that common -- at least, I was
kind of hoping most customers aren't mucking with fixed speed and duplex
settings.  Jumbograms are in a bit of gray area, but if we had a boolean
jumbograms property as you suggest, I think that'd be adminstratively
decent.  I'm curious why you think having three properties (ala cap,
advcap and lpadvcap) wouldn't be a reasonable tradeoff?

 > Actually, the plethora of different jumbo frame sizes that various NICs
 > support is *another* annoyance.  I think we should just pick a standard
 > Solaris value that is typical... say 9000 bytes or somesuch, and then
 > abandon the attempts to support other less common "jumbo sizes".  The
 > infinite tunability here is more likely to cause problems for customers
 > than to help them.)

I'm inclined to agree, but I'm not familiar with what causes a customer to
choose a given value.

-- 
meem

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