On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 02:55:23PM +0200, Heikki Levanto wrote:
> On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 06:39:24AM -0500, Thomas Eibner wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 11:30:56AM +0200, Brian M. S?rensen wrote:
> > > det er filteret der er hele hemmeligheden, det stripper ølen for smag
> > 
> > Oeh, nej! Filtrering spiller en rolle, men det fjerner altsaa ikke
> > smag i den grad som du tror. Jeg bruger et pladefilter til de 
> > konkurrence oel der skal vaere krystal-klare og det fjerner gaerrester
> > og protein haze. Selv ved .5 mikron har jeg ikke oplevet at der har 
> > vaeret nogen smagbar forskel. 
> 
> I suspect that removing the last remaining yeasts may not make so much
> of a difference here and now. But that it will radically change the way
> a beer ages and develops, as those yeasts would still be doing things,
> even if slowly.

I agree that it has to change the way a beer develops, but I'm not
going to filter a barleywine just because I can. We're talking lagers
that should be crystal clear (and clean) when presented. 

> Those times I have managed to taste the same (commercial) beer filtered
> and unfiltered, there has been a small difference.

The filtered version has probably been more clean as Brian points out.
Yes, cleaner is better (when you're into competitions). 

Thomas


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