Yes. "The best way to promote a BSD Cert is to promote BSD itselft. "
On 9/2/05, J. Rafael Gómez G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok. But we must understand first of all that: > > 1. The only "institution" that gives real recognition of a certification is > the IT Market, not the goverments. In my region, an MSCE worths its weight > in gold. Why? Simply, because here, in Central Region of Mexico, Microsoft > IT rules (this tendency It's changing towards Linux, but with a very slow > pace). LPIC is getting more value in all Mexico because "Linux Market" is > growing. Why Linux is growing? Because (I suppose) enterprises (and its IT > leaders) are discovering that "value" that Linux gives to their IT > infraestructure. Conclusion: IT Market and IT Certifications are closely > related. > > The best way to promote a BSD Cert is to promote BSD itselft. Why? Because > as the "BSD Market" grows the certification will be as important as the > market itselt. Based on this thinking, the price of the BSD Cert should be > proportional to the value of the "BSD Market" worldwide. > > 2. The requisites to become an accredition center should be more technical > than economical to help countries like Brazil, Mexico, etc. to develop > training centers to develop not just BSD IT pros, but also to create and > increase the BSD Market itself. I'm agree with Pablo that the price must not > be too low, but also it shouldn't be too much high. An annual fee to > accredition centers its a good way to compromise them to help to the > increasing of "BSD Market". > > 3. Evan is right: To become a real trainer, isn't sufficient just to be > certified you must know how to teach. But I think that is really complex to > develop a "Trainer Teaching" program. That's because each trainer I know has > it's own method to teach according to his/her personality. > > > Greeting. > > > > > > On 9/1/05, Evan Leibovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The issue of "accredited training centres" is certainly an important > > one. It can have a great effect on the popularity of the certification > > program as well as revenue to the certification organization. But it is > > complex and has many challenges. > > > > > institutions should be certified by government or other > organization. > > > > > > > > > 1 - Why should Government be involved if they hardly know which is the > > > right choice for technology and they are usually ruled by principles > > > that are either corrupt or idealogically wrong? The only Organization > > > involved should be the BSD Certification Group. > > > > The best that could (and should) be desired is that governments endorse > > the BSD-CG (or whatever its corporate entity is named) as an accepted > > national standard. Pablo is right that governments may not always make > > the best technology choices but they can accredit organizations which do. > > > > Any certification is essentially the setting of a standard, and the > > success of the certification is tightly bound to public acceptance and > > _trust_ of that standard. The level of trust is governed by a number of > > factors: > > > > - The respectability and accountability of the governing body > > - The process used to determine the objectives > > - The perceived levels of security and corruptibility in delivery (is it > > too easy to cheat?) > > - The amount and (process for accepting) public input > > - Endorsements from other respected organizations > > > > IF the goal of the BSD-CG is to create a program that is recognized and > > understood outside its community (for instance, by HR and IT managers > > not familiar with BSD but who need to hire skilled practitioners), then > > the above factors become important. > > > > In IT, certification is not undertaken as a badge of honor. To most > > people being tested, the cost of certification (and associated training) > > is a career investment, and the end result must have a practical payoff > > -- will being certified provide better access to jobs than not being > > certified? If the answer is 'no', then the certification will not > > survive no matter how well designed or well meaning. > > > > To be certain, the value of certification in IT is itself frequently > > under attack. The cause of this attack is the commercialization of most > > IT certifications, even in some cases by non-profit groups (the CompTIA > > family of A+, Server+, whatever+ comes to mind). A recent taste of this > > debate can be found at Slashdot: > > > > > http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/26/1739234&tid=187&tid=126&tid=4&tid=218 > > > > Back to the main subject: > > > > Anyone can be a "BSD Training Centre", even today, unless someone tries > > to assert "BSD" as a trademark, and I don't think it (the three letters > > "BSD" alone) is trademarked. And such efforts would be country-specific, > > unlike copyrights there are no international conventions on trademarks. > > But i digress... > > > > The issue is not "how to be a BSD training centre" but really "how will > > the BSD-CG endorse training centres". This is a very complex issue, will > > be different from country to country, and has a potential of being a > > very big money maker, a way to expand the certification, and an easy way > > to get sued. > > > > Who trains the trainer? Who sets the standard for the trainer (beyond > > certifying their BSD knowledge, which is supposedly being done anyway). > > Who provides "approved" course materials? Who sets and enforces any > > codes of conduct? Who helps to publicize and support training centres > > that receive the endorsement? And how are academic institutions handled > > different from commercial training centres? Most importantly, who pays > > for all this infrastructure? > > > > This issue is almost 100% removed from the actual task of making an > > actual certification. It requires different skills and is very much a > > business issue more than an educational one. Having said that, it can be > > (and usually is) an integral and necessary part of popularizing the > program. > > > > - Evan > > _______________________________________________ > > BSDCert mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/bsdcert > > > > > > -- > > > Lobogris. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _______________________________________________ > BSDCert mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/bsdcert > > > -- Regards, Ye Wei _______________________________________________ BSDCert mailing list [email protected] http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/bsdcert
