On 11/22/05, Evan Leibovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Siju George wrote: > > >basically that assumption comes because many think BSD to be the geek > >OS who think only geeks who shun the idea of things like certification > >use/can use it. > > > > > Well, there is more than a kernel of truth to that perception. I > attended a number of Usenix conferences where the subject of > certification was raised, and each time quite quickly shouted down. "I > would never work for a company that demanded certification" was a common > comment. >
I have heard it many times( infact most of us would have ) and have also said it too :-) > It was only within the last few years that Usenix, itself struggling for > legitimacy and purpose, decided to move ahead with a cert program -- but > it was too late by then. The org threw a lot of money at a program that > was eventually mothballed. THERE WAS NO DEMAND, even though Usenix had > produced a very high-quality cert. > So what did Usenix decide? Get away with Certifications? > Employers who use BSD have generally been successful so far in finding > quality people, without having a cert program. > Yes true! "Who use" and 'generally" There are out there some who would like to use but have shyed away due to the lack of Certification which is one way to prove proficiency. now please don't mix this up with MCSE,CCNA and so on. We will be differrent. > What new capability does > a cert program offer them? >Is the growth rate of BSD such that there is > a boom in jobs, > Yes there is a increase in interest for BSDs among companies! and certification will further it ( in terms of deployment) because new company's will find it more secure hiring people with a good certifiaction. > > >Its not so > > > How can you say that? Statistics? Interviews with employers? > Yes!!! Interview with many of them!!! For example there are many who still stick to M S Windows/Redhat firewalls due to RHCE certification available. Most of them I spoke to would like to use OpenNSD after being informed about it but either can't find qualified people or have no way of checking their qualifications. >Gut feel? > I had the Gut feel 3 years back and over these three years I am finding it in practice. yes right before my eyes while speaking with employers, CIOs etc. > Wishful thinking? > :-) >This is a foundation of my point. Demand does not exist merely because >you assert so. > Who claimed here that demand exists because we assert so? And do you have absolute surety that demand does not exist because 19 people ( that is a big percentage of world's population) said nothing about it. Please clarify as to what makes you think demand does not exist. Statistics? ( based on 19 nos?) Interviews? ( with the peple who haven't heard of BSDs or know about its quality?) Gut Feeling? ( may be your 19 no. statistics would have given you that! ) Wishful thinking?? ( no idea how it applies here but just becaused you put this option in your choice of answers ) Or mere ignorance???? Kind Regards - Siju Oommen George, Network Consultant. HiFX IT & MEDIA SERVICES PVT. LTD. http://www.hifx.net _______________________________________________ BSDCert mailing list [email protected] http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/bsdcert
