I wouldn't do that!

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Elias Mårtenson <[email protected]> wrote:

> I suggested some time ago that very large data sets shouldn't be displayed
> at all, since they are not only slow, they are also largely useless in an
> interactive session.
>
> It was decided that this approach would not be taken, but I don't remember
> the justification for it.
>
> Regards,
> Elias
>
>
> On 9 July 2014 10:58, Blake McBride <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think the layout function need two modifications:
>>
>> 1.  enable ^C
>>
>> 2.  at least for large data, output as you go rather than format the
>> whole thing and then output the whole thing
>>
>> --blake
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Elias Mårtenson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There is already the SIGINT signal which is processed by GNU APL to
>>> interrupt a function execution. However, this interruptability is not
>>> extended to the layout function.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 July 2014 09:09, Peter Teeson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In Sharp APL (IPSA) we had a "panic int" which interrupted whatever was
>>>> being computed after a predetermined time.
>>>> It was inherent to the interpreter because we ran a timesharing system.
>>>> I don't recall the exact details but it went something like this;
>>>>
>>>> 1) Workspace gets swapped in for execution and is given a quantum of
>>>> CPU time
>>>> 2) At the end of that quantum a second but quite small (relative to the
>>>> normal ) additional amount of CPU was allocated
>>>>  to see if that would allow an interrupt at a "suitable" point in the
>>>> function/operation that was going on.
>>>> 3) If that extra time was not sufficient the workspace was arbitrarily
>>>> interrupted and AFAICR the user got )CLEAR WS.
>>>>
>>>> That's probably not exactly correct (I never read the actual assembly
>>>> code for that part of the interpreter).
>>>> But the idea worked for us.
>>>>
>>>> On a single user system there is no real need for a specific quantum;
>>>> the OS takes care of  scheduling.
>>>> But perhaps a "panic int" concept in some form or other might be useful?
>>>> Perhaps allowing the user to decide if they want to continue?
>>>> Perhaps with a default value? Perhaps assignable by the user?
>>>>
>>>> respect…
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> On 2014-07-08, at 1:50 PM, Blake McBride <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > If I do:
>>>> >
>>>> >       z←⍳1000000
>>>> >
>>>> > the operation is very fast.  But if I do:
>>>> >
>>>> >       ⍳1000000
>>>> >
>>>> > it is very slow, presumably because it is formatting the whole thing
>>>> for display.  No problem.
>>>> >
>>>> > The problem is that during its effort to format for display, I cannot
>>>> use ^C.  ^C appears to work fine in normal situations - but not during the
>>>> format for display time.  During format-for-display time ^C is ignored.
>>>> >
>>>> > This caused me a problem when I accidentally mis-typed something.
>>>>  The mis-type caused something very large to be displayed.  In fact, it was
>>>> so large that my machine started paging.  I was unable to use ^C to stop
>>>> it.  After waiting an hour, I had to kill the process and loose my work.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks.
>>>> >
>>>> > Blake
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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