I agree with everything as stated previously.  I will close the ticket
now.  Thanks for the discussion.

--
With Valediction,
Kamila Szewczyk (https://iczelia.net)

On 8/29/26 10:46 PM, Collin Funk wrote:
> Karl Berry <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>> Regarding https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=62069.
>>
>> Given Kamila's point about reproducibility, and the xz version
>> dependence of the feature, I don't think we should change automake's
>> default of unthreaded.
> 
> I can't speak to Kamila's point about reputability or stability since it
> isn't my area of expertise, but I think that just invoking the command
> with none (or minimal) options is a reasonable choice. Package
> maintainers can make their own decisions on whether they want new
> compression features or maximize portability, for example.
> 
>> Thus I think the only change called for here is to update the doc to
>> mention that -T0 (or another value) can presumably be added to XZ_OPT if
>> a maintainer wishes to make thread-dependent, and xz-version-dependent,
>> tarballs.
> 
> Yes, it works fine. In coreutils we have the following in cfg.mk:
> 
>     # Comparing tarball sizes compressed using different xz presets, we see 
> that
>     # an -8e-compressed tarball is only 9KiB larger than the -9e-compressed 
> one.
>     # Using -8e is preferred, since that lets the decompression process use 
> half
>     # the memory (32MiB rather than 64MiB).
>     # $ for i in {7,8,9}{e,}; do \
>     #     (n=$(xz -$i < coreutils-8.15*.tar|wc -c);echo $n $i) & done |sort 
> -nr
>     # 5129388 7
>     # 5036524 7e
>     # 5017476 8
>     # 5010604 9
>     # 4923016 8e
>     # 4914152 9e
>     export XZ_OPT = -8e
> 
> Many of the packages Jim Meyering maintains have similar lines (I'm sort
> of surprised he didn't add it to 'make dist' for Automake's tarballs).
> 
> FWIW, we haven't run into any complaints about the xz formatted tarballs
> in coreutils because of this. They seemingly work fine everywhere. There
> was a minor exception where GNU Guix wanted gzip'ed tarballs for
> bootstrapping, but I think they haven't needed that for a while now.
> 
> Collin
> 
> 
> 

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