On 2025-08-23 11:27, Phillip Lougher wrote:

Yeah let's take the attitude everyone writes well written programs, and if they 
don't it's their fault when they unexpectedly break in production.   In reality 
a lot of code in embedded Linux systems is dreadful, written by inexperienced 
programmers.

Inexperienced programmers don't use SEEK_HOLE or SEEK_DATA.

Several commonly-used programs would benefit from proper support for SEEK_HOLE and SEEK_DATA. What programs would be hurt? If nobody knows of such programs, we should be skeptical of the argument that support would be dangerous. To be honest I can't think of why it would hurt in practical programs.


Anyway, my email was pointing out that the SEEK_HOLE behaviour being complained about is the default Linux VFS behaviour.  So this isn't about Squashfs.

Yes it is. The default behavior is appropriate for simple file systems that lack extents. However, Squashfs is not such a file system. If Squashfs has extents but does not expose them to user code, user code can be waaaaaayy less efficient.

And this isn't merely an efficiency issue. It can be a security issue, as sparse files can be used for denial-of-service attacks. I assume efficiency and security are of concern to Squashfs users, which is why I press this point.



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