MM >> the Position ID was not accompanied by its corresponding Match ID. A Position ID can only be interpreted correctly after checking the Dice Owner field of the Match ID. ... MM >> Paste the two as a unit into GnuBg.
----------------------------------------------- Thanks for the tips Mike, this information is good to know. I looked through but I couldn't find your guidance in the gnubg manual (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnubg/manual/gnubg.html). But maybe I missed it. Suggestion: when positions are saved from gnubg in *.txt format for subsequent posting online as explanatory ASCII diagrams, would it be more user friendly to present the IDs together on one line? So rather than.. GNU Backgammon Position ID: DCBwdwcE8IE9Qw Match ID : cAngAAAAAAAA We get something displayed like.. GNU Backgammon ID DCBwdwcE8IE9Qw:cAngAAAAAAAA I could be misunderstanding, but this single line would seem to me to be easier to copy and paste. I don't really see the value of separating them onto two lines, especially as you explained that generally the position ID is not very useful on its own (and I guess pasting the match position in on its own is not that useful either). Thanks again. Wayne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 19 December 2014 17:00 To: [email protected] Subject: Bug-gnubg Digest, Vol 145, Issue 6 Send Bug-gnubg mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Bug-gnubg digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Invert direction - bug / feature request (Ian Shaw) 2. Re: Invert direction - bug / feature request (Taper_Mike) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:56:58 +0000 From: Ian Shaw <[email protected]> To: Wayne Joseph <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Invert direction - bug / feature request Message-ID: <5CB9C5CB80F1E94AAE935ADD217BBD5460961D6F@RIVERSERVER2011.Riverside.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Wayne, You appear to have something odd happening. Your image looks like the bars containing the point numbers have been swapped around using Cut and Paste. When I do the steps you ask, I have the top player (White) on roll with 31 to play. This is indicated by the white arrow next to the numerical marker for Point 1; it?s at the top, not the bottom as shown in your picture. This behaviour looks completely correct to me. Please note that the position you have is rather unusual, with both players having a huge number of men back (and pip counts over 200). This looks to me like somebody has set up the position incorrectly, with the pieces for the players swapped over, and presented it to you. (I suspect the top and bottom rows of point numbers have been swapped manually in the image from rec.games.backgammon. When gnubg produces such an image, the bottom player is X and the top player is O). If so, this would be the equivalent position with the pieces set up correctly Position ID: mDfwAUS4uwMBDA Match ID: cIkFAAAACAAA The pip counts are 123 to 158, which looks a lot more normal to me. I hope this helps. Regards, Ian Shaw From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wayne Joseph Sent: 17 December 2014 18:37 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Invert direction - bug / feature request >> Does using the "Game" menu and "Swap Players" option do what you are looking for? Hi, I did retry this today but it still didn't give the desired result for me. I am using gnubg v1.03.000-mingw 20140804 If you have a spare 10 minutes please could you try this test? On your version of gnubg.. 1. Paste in GNU Backgammon Position ID: DCBwdwcE8IE9Qw then 2. > menu game->swap players After doing the above, please can you confirm that you get this board BCconfiguration? http://i.imgur.com/Gm2WOdB.png Thanks again On 17 Dec 2014 17:00, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi, I was given this problem on rgb backgammon with the position ID - DCBwdwcE8IE9Qw ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- GNU Backgammon Position ID: DCBwdwcE8IE9Qw Match ID : cAngAAAAAAAA +13-14-15-16-17-18------19- 20-21-22-23-24-+ X: YOUR OPPONENT | O X | | X X O | 0 points | X | | X X O | | | | X | | | | X | | | | | v| |BAR| | 7 point match (Cube: 1) | X | | | | X | | | | X O | | O O O | | X O | | O O O | On roll | X O | X | O O O X | 0 points +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+ O: YOU Pip counts : O 252, X 242 You rolled 31 what would you play and what is it from the above? You rolled 62 what would you play and what is it from the above? You rolled 66 what would you play and what is it from the above? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- When I pasted DCBwdwcE8IE9Qw into gnubg I found that the direction was wrong. Is there a way to quickly and easily invert the direction and pip numbers so that I would be bearing off to the bottom right, instead of the top right? I have attached two screenshots to illustrate: 2014-12-15 13_52_04-GNU Backgammon - Invert direction - original.png and 2014-12-15 13_52_04-GNU Backgammon - Invert direction - reversed.png The reversed image state is what I would like to achieve. Also I guess the dice should be on the right hand side of the board if it is my turn to move (now anticlockwise and down instead of clockwise and up) Perhaps this could be added as a toggle button, or a menu item in Options? Please let me know what you think and if you received this email successfully? Thanks for your time. Wayne (sebalotek) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnubg/attachments/20141218/606980e2/a ttachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:29:37 -0800 From: "Taper_Mike" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Invert direction - bug / feature request Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Wayne Joseph reports that the GNU Backgammon Position ID: DCBwdwcE8IE9Qw, when pasted into GnuBg, does not produce the desired result. The reason for this is because the Position ID was not accompanied by its corresponding Match ID. A Position ID can only be interpreted correctly after checking the Dice Owner field of the Match ID. The first part of a Position ID contains checker positions for the player who is not the dice owner. The second part contains checker positions for the dice owner. In the absence of a Match ID, GnuBg must guess which player owns the dice. Obviously, this information will not be of help if you do not have access to the Match ID for your position. You might, however, try tricking GnuBg. Set up any position where the dice owner is the player you need. Copy the Match ID for this position, and pair it with the Position ID you are having trouble with. Paste the two as a unit into GnuBg. Hope this helps. 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