Merged to https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?50941


On 2016-06-17 21:56, Adam Bogacki wrote:

I vote for Tiberiu.

Hail Cezar !

Adam.

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   1. Re: Suggestion: .gnuzilla/icecat/ instead of .mozilla/icecat/
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      (David Hedlund)
   3. Re: Suggestion: .gnuzilla/icecat/ instead of .mozilla/icecat/
      (Daniel Quintiliani)
   4. Re: Suggestion: .gnuzilla/icecat/ instead of .mozilla/icecat/
      (Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic)
   5. Re: Suggestion: .gnuzilla/icecat/ instead of .mozilla/icecat/
      (David Hedlund)
   6. Re: Suggestion: .gnuzilla/icecat/ instead of .mozilla/icecat/
      (Narcis Garcia)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:54:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Daniel Quintiliani" <d...@runbox.com>
To: "Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic" <t...@ceata.org>
Cc: "bug-gnuzilla" <bug-gnuzilla@gnu.org>, "gnuzilla-dev"
    <gnuzilla-...@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Suggestion: .gnuzilla/icecat/ instead of
    .mozilla/icecat/
Message-ID: <e1bde5j-0004uy...@rmm6prod02.runbox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi,

I think it's a better idea to keep all the Mozilla-based products' profiles in the same predictable place. Thunderbird, Tor Browser Bundle, etc.

BTW, any new info on the v45 security issues vs the cookie prompt? Were we going to backport the security updates to v38, or move forward to v45 like TBB has, possibly including one of the add-ons Mozilla recommended?

Personally I can't imagine using a cookie prompt for each site (plus every banner ad and invisible GIF?) and always found it better to clean cookies on shutdown, and have done so pretty much all my life. I wouldn't mind sacrificing such a feature in exchange for fixing security issues now and more easily in the future.

--

-Dan Q

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:07:34 +0300, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic <t...@ceata.org> wrote:

Hello,

I'm impressed with the new GNU IceCat maintained by Ruben.

However, I would love to see the profiles stored under .gnuzilla/icecat/
instead of the current path .mozilla/icecat/.

Is there a technical reason why this shouldn't be possible? I'm thinking
maybe backward compatibility?

Please let me know.
Tiberiu

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:58:19 +0200
From: David Hedlund <pub...@beloved.name>
To: Daniel Quintiliani <d...@runbox.com>,    Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
    <t...@ceata.org>
Cc: gnuzilla-dev <gnuzilla-...@gnu.org>, bug-gnuzilla
    <bug-gnuzilla@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Suggestion: .gnuzilla/icecat/ instead of
    .mozilla/icecat/
Message-ID: <5761892b.7020...@beloved.name>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"

Tiberiu makes sense;The /Debian/ Free Software /Guidelines/ (DFSG) decided to put Icedove in ~/.icedove


On 2016-06-15 18:54, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
Hi,

I think it's a better idea to keep all the Mozilla-based products' profiles in the same predictable place. Thunderbird, Tor Browser Bundle, etc.

BTW, any new info on the v45 security issues vs the cookie prompt? Were we going to backport the security updates to v38, or move forward to v45 like TBB has, possibly including one of the add-ons Mozilla recommended?

Personally I can't imagine using a cookie prompt for each site (plus every banner ad and invisible GIF?) and always found it better to clean cookies on shutdown, and have done so pretty much all my life. I wouldn't mind sacrificing such a feature in exchange for fixing security issues now and more easily in the future.

--

-Dan Q

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:07:34 +0300, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic <t...@ceata.org> wrote:

Hello,

I'm impressed with the new GNU IceCat maintained by Ruben.

However, I would love to see the profiles stored under .gnuzilla/icecat/
instead of the current path .mozilla/icecat/.

Is there a technical reason why this shouldn't be possible? I'm thinking
maybe backward compatibility?

Please let me know.
Tiberiu

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:05:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Daniel Quintiliani" <d...@runbox.com>
To: "David Hedlund" <pub...@beloved.name>
Cc: "Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic" <t...@ceata.org>, "gnuzilla-dev"
    <gnuzilla-...@gnu.org>,    "bug-gnuzilla" <bug-gnuzilla@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Suggestion: .gnuzilla/icecat/ instead of
    .mozilla/icecat/
Message-ID: <e1bdefv-0006ht...@rmm6prod02.runbox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi,

Thank you, wasn't aware, never used Debian. But wasn't the idea of ~/.mozilla linked to the infrastructure (profiles, browser headers) rather than the trademark?

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-Dan Q

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:58:19 +0200, David Hedlund <pub...@beloved.name> wrote:

Tiberiu makes sense;The /Debian/ Free Software /Guidelines/ (DFSG) decided to put Icedove in ~/.icedove


On 2016-06-15 18:54, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think it's a better idea to keep all the Mozilla-based products' profiles in the same predictable place. Thunderbird, Tor Browser Bundle, etc.
>
> BTW, any new info on the v45 security issues vs the cookie prompt? Were we going to backport the security updates to v38, or move forward to v45 like TBB has, possibly including one of the add-ons Mozilla recommended?
>
> Personally I can't imagine using a cookie prompt for each site (plus every banner ad and invisible GIF?) and always found it better to clean cookies on shutdown, and have done so pretty much all my life. I wouldn't mind sacrificing such a feature in exchange for fixing security issues now and more easily in the future.
>
> --
>
> -Dan Q
>
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:07:34 +0300, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic <t...@ceata.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm impressed with the new GNU IceCat maintained by Ruben.
>>
>> However, I would love to see the profiles stored under .gnuzilla/icecat/
>> instead of the current path .mozilla/icecat/.
>>
>> Is there a technical reason why this shouldn't be possible? I'm thinking
>> maybe backward compatibility?
>>
>> Please let me know.
>> Tiberiu
>>
>> --
>> http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
>
>
> --
> http://gnuzilla.gnu.org





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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:08:36 +0300
From: Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic <t...@ceata.org>
To: David Hedlund <pub...@beloved.name>, Daniel Quintiliani
    <d...@runbox.com>
Cc: gnuzilla-dev <gnuzilla-...@gnu.org>, bug-gnuzilla
    <bug-gnuzilla@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Suggestion: .gnuzilla/icecat/ instead of
    .mozilla/icecat/
Message-ID: <57618b94.1010...@ceata.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Similarly, GNU has decided to put IceCat in a directory called icecat
(instead of firefox). However, this is a half-measure since icecat is in
the parent directory .mozilla.

To summarize, we already have:

~/.thunderbird -> ~/.icedove
~/.mozilla/firefox -> ~/.mozilla/icecat

The proposal is to go all the way and make:

~/.mozilla/icecat -> ~/.gnuzilla/icecat

Thanks,
Tiberiu

On 06/15/2016 07:58 PM, David Hedlund wrote:
Tiberiu makes sense; The /Debian/ Free Software /Guidelines/ (DFSG) decided to put Icedove in ~/.icedove


On 2016-06-15 18:54, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
Hi,

I think it's a better idea to keep all the Mozilla-based products' profiles in the same predictable place. Thunderbird, Tor Browser Bundle, etc.

BTW, any new info on the v45 security issues vs the cookie prompt? Were we going to backport the security updates to v38, or move forward to v45 like TBB has, possibly including one of the add-ons Mozilla recommended?

Personally I can't imagine using a cookie prompt for each site (plus every banner ad and invisible GIF?) and always found it better to clean cookies on shutdown, and have done so pretty much all my life. I wouldn't mind sacrificing such a feature in exchange for fixing security issues now and more easily in the future.

--

-Dan Q

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:07:34 +0300, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic <t...@ceata.org> wrote:

Hello,

I'm impressed with the new GNU IceCat maintained by Ruben.

However, I would love to see the profiles stored under .gnuzilla/icecat/
instead of the current path .mozilla/icecat/.

Is there a technical reason why this shouldn't be possible? I'm thinking
maybe backward compatibility?

Please let me know.
Tiberiu

--
http://gnuzilla.gnu.org


--
http://gnuzilla.gnu.org




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:10:07 +0200
From: David Hedlund <pub...@beloved.name>
To: Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic <t...@ceata.org>
Cc: bug-gnuzilla <bug-gnuzilla@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Suggestion: .gnuzilla/icecat/ instead of
    .mozilla/icecat/
Message-ID: <57618bef.4000...@beloved.name>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Thank you.

On 2016-06-15 19:08, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote:
Similarly, GNU has decided to put IceCat in a directory called icecat
(instead of firefox). However, this is a half-measure since icecat is in
the parent directory .mozilla.

To summarize, we already have:

~/.thunderbird -> ~/.icedove
~/.mozilla/firefox -> ~/.mozilla/icecat

The proposal is to go all the way and make:

~/.mozilla/icecat -> ~/.gnuzilla/icecat

Thanks,
Tiberiu

On 06/15/2016 07:58 PM, David Hedlund wrote:
Tiberiu makes sense; The /Debian/ Free Software /Guidelines/ (DFSG) decided to put Icedove in ~/.icedove


On 2016-06-15 18:54, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
Hi,

I think it's a better idea to keep all the Mozilla-based products' profiles in the same predictable place. Thunderbird, Tor Browser Bundle, etc.

BTW, any new info on the v45 security issues vs the cookie prompt? Were we going to backport the security updates to v38, or move forward to v45 like TBB has, possibly including one of the add-ons Mozilla recommended?

Personally I can't imagine using a cookie prompt for each site (plus every banner ad and invisible GIF?) and always found it better to clean cookies on shutdown, and have done so pretty much all my life. I wouldn't mind sacrificing such a feature in exchange for fixing security issues now and more easily in the future.

--

-Dan Q

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:07:34 +0300, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic <t...@ceata.org> wrote:

Hello,

I'm impressed with the new GNU IceCat maintained by Ruben.

However, I would love to see the profiles stored under .gnuzilla/icecat/
instead of the current path .mozilla/icecat/.

Is there a technical reason why this shouldn't be possible? I'm thinking
maybe backward compatibility?

Please let me know.
Tiberiu

--
http://gnuzilla.gnu.org

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http://gnuzilla.gnu.org




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:27:52 +0200
From: Narcis Garcia <informat...@actiu.net>
To: bug-gnuzilla@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Suggestion: .gnuzilla/icecat/ instead of
    .mozilla/icecat/
Message-ID: <57619018.6060...@actiu.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

There are GNU/Linux distributions that allow to install Mozilla Firefox
AND Gnuzilla Icecat as different applications. This scenario makes sense
to have different paths for user's profile, same as makes sense to have
different paths for software in the system.


El 15/06/16 a les 18:54, Daniel Quintiliani ha escrit:
Hi,

I think it's a better idea to keep all the Mozilla-based products' profiles in the same predictable place. Thunderbird, Tor Browser Bundle, etc.

BTW, any new info on the v45 security issues vs the cookie prompt? Were we going to backport the security updates to v38, or move forward to v45 like TBB has, possibly including one of the add-ons Mozilla recommended?

Personally I can't imagine using a cookie prompt for each site (plus every banner ad and invisible GIF?) and always found it better to clean cookies on shutdown, and have done so pretty much all my life. I wouldn't mind sacrificing such a feature in exchange for fixing security issues now and more easily in the future.

--

-Dan Q

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:07:34 +0300, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic <t...@ceata.org> wrote:

Hello,

I'm impressed with the new GNU IceCat maintained by Ruben.

However, I would love to see the profiles stored under .gnuzilla/icecat/
instead of the current path .mozilla/icecat/.

Is there a technical reason why this shouldn't be possible? I'm thinking
maybe backward compatibility?

Please let me know.
Tiberiu

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