On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 05:22:04AM +0900, OKUJI Yoshinori wrote:

> > Do you guys have any information that would be worth posting on 
> > http://hurddocs.org?  If you're not familiar with the site, it's intended 
> > to be a nice central resource for anything to do with the Hurd.
> 
>   Honestly speaking, I don't like the idea that you have another site
> besides GNU's web site. As for Hurd, I don't say any objection, since
> I'm not the maintainer and not doing much work on it currently, even
> though I have write permission to the CVS repository. As for GRUB,
> however, I have been contributing to the official document heartily
> and I want the official document to be self-sufficient (i.e. it should
> have complete information and shouldn't depend on external
> documentation, whenever possible). Thus, if someone tries to write
> another document about GRUB, I would say to him/her, "Why don't you
> contribute to the official development but attempt to disperse
> information instead?"

I can respond to why I chose to create the hurddocs site first.  
Basically, the state of the documentation for the Hurd is pretty bad.  
I've written 2 sets of documentation for the hurd in the past and 
received absolutely no response from any of the maintainers when I 
offered to include it.  Because of this, I felt it was worth posting the 
information separately.  This is what hurd.zugzug.com was originally 
supposed to serve and the response was fantastic.  People were actively 
*asking* for more details and providing corrections.  This proved to me 
the need for such a site.  The maintainers of the Hurd should have no 
cause to object, as I'm not competing with their site in any way (Last 
time I looked to only helpful information was a link to the Easy Guide).  

My current goal is to provide as much information as I can.  I intend to 
post as much information on Mach and Hurd processes, as well as howto 
guides for OsKit, Networking, compiling, as well as experimental 
information as I can.  So much information is buried in archies and I 
want to highlight feature information that has been on the mailing list 
from time to time.  This is what led me to want to post GRUB information 
on the site - it's critical for the Hurd.  You'll notice that I'm looking 
for existing information on Grub, not hoping for new things to be 
written.  I'll cheerfully do less work whenever possible! =)

I am not trying to create divisions in the community.  However, I think 
that one of Linux's biggest strengths has been people willing to go out 
and do their own thing (documentation, new projects, etc...) and set up 
sites.  I really hope that hurddocs.org will be a place where developers 
can go, people creating new distributions can go, and new users can also 
go to get the information they need to use the Hurd.

-- 
"It is easy to be blinded to the essential uselessness of computers by
the sense of accomplishment you get from getting them to work at all."
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