With apologies to [email protected], I'm going to use his
*appropriately* formatted message to dispute what I believe to be
an erroneous statement in the bug-reporting page of the new Lilypond
website.

There is no top-posting filter on the bug-lilypond mailing list.

If such a filter exists, and I have no reason to doubt that it does,
the filter is in the GMane posting interface.  Richard used that
interface to post the message below so it was entirely appropriate
for him to use the filter circumvention described in the bug-reporting
page of the new website but that was only necessary because he used
the GMane newsgroup interface.  It is not necessary to circumvent
the non-existent top-posting interface on the bug-lilypong mailing
list.

I am including poor Richard's message to make it clear that I am,
in fact, top-posting.  First, an unquoted extract ....


% If the music has at least one tall system and many vertically-short systems,
% v.2.13.26 gives the vertically-short systems too much vertical space.
% When using Feta font size 20 and A4 paper, Lilypond v.2.13.26 lays this
% example out on 4 pages, 4 systems per page. This is needlessly many pages:
% Lilypond should not need more than 2 pages.
% Proof: the music is one tall 4/4 bar followed by 112 short bars. Add the line 
% showLastLength = R1*112
% This omits only the first bar. and v.2.13.26 lays the music out on 2 pages
% with 10 staves on page 1. 

\version "2.13.26"

% showLastLength = R1*112 % uncomment this line to omit the first bar

\paper
{
        ragged-last-bottom      = ##f
}

rhMusic =
{
    << d'''4^\f \\ f'4_\f >>
    \repeat unfold 451 f'
}

lhMusic =
{
    \clef bass
    << f'4^\f \\ g,,4_\f >>
    \repeat unfold 451 g
}

pedalling =
{
    \set Staff.pedalSustainStyle = #'bracket
    s4\sustainOn s2.\sustainOff
}

\score
{
    \new PianoStaff
    <<
        \new Staff << \rhMusic >>
        \new Staff << \lhMusic \pedalling >>
    >>
    \layout { }
}


And now the whole (quoted) message ...

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>> > I am not top-posting.
>> 
>> % If the music has at least one tall system and many vertically-short 
>> systems,
>> % v.2.13.26 gives the vertically-short systems too much vertical space.
>> % When using Feta font size 20 and A4 paper, Lilypond v.2.13.26 lays this
>> % example out on 4 pages, 4 systems per page. This is needlessly many pages:
>> % Lilypond should not need more than 2 pages.
>> % Proof: the music is one tall 4/4 bar followed by 112 short bars. Add the 
>> line 
>> % showLastLength = R1*112
>> % This omits only the first bar. and v.2.13.26 lays the music out on 2 pages
>> % with 10 staves on page 1. 
>> 
>> \version "2.13.26"
>> 
>> % showLastLength = R1*112 % uncomment this line to omit the first bar
>> 
>> \paper
>> {
>>         ragged-last-bottom   = ##f
>> }
>> 
>> rhMusic =
>> {
>>     << d'''4^\f \\ f'4_\f >>
>>     \repeat unfold 451 f'
>> }
>> 
>> lhMusic =
>> {
>>     \clef bass
>>     << f'4^\f \\ g,,4_\f >>
>>     \repeat unfold 451 g
>> }
>> 
>> pedalling =
>> {
>>     \set Staff.pedalSustainStyle = #'bracket
>>     s4\sustainOn s2.\sustainOff
>> }
>> 
>> \score
>> {
>>     \new PianoStaff
>>     <<
>>         \new Staff << \rhMusic >>
>>         \new Staff << \lhMusic \pedalling >>
>>     >>
>>     \layout { }
>> }
>> 
>> 
>> 
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