On Sat, Aug 09, 2025 at 01:22:20PM -0500, Parzival Wolfram wrote: > Apologies for the wait, tack is proving temperamental and ncurses is > silently refusing to build shared libraries despite being configured with > --enable-shared. I can't find much documentation on tack's actual inner
That's --with-shared https://invisible-island.net/ncurses/INSTALL.html#option:with-shared ...which uses a case-statement (which may/may not need work) > workings, and it claims to be unable to find the terminal database (status = > -1) despite being usable by other programs. (Additionally, I may have to > submit a patch or two later, as only ncurses and tack have died on configure > due to using case statements with non-standard parenthesis.) (puzzled what you're testing if the configure fails...) Actually that's POSIX standard. https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html#tag_02_09_04_05 The page is 2004, but I recall the feature was standardized several years before _that_. I've been using the feature for about ten years. Solaris kept using an old /bin/sh I made a script to help some people with old machines (Ultrix 4.3), which you could use to alter the configure script. Alternatively, you can do this: SHELL=/usr/xpg4/bin/sh export SHELL I do that in a wrapper script for Solaris 10, which runs in VirtualBox... I recall that the console driver differs in several ways from what you're investigating. > On 8/1/25 7:33 PM, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 01, 2025 at 06:29:43PM -0500, Parzival Wolfram wrote: > > > Are terminfo definitions still being added for/from ancient Unix flavors? > > > I'm running Solaris 7 i86pc (i486-pc-solaris2.7) and the "AT386" terminfo > > > file, defining the textmode shell on the physical machine, is not present > > > as > > > of ncurses-6.5 (along with several other files.) Would these be > > > appropriate > > > to add to ncurses, either directly from Solaris or remade based on the > > > infocmp output? infocmp and toe do seem to parse them, both on the Solaris > > > box and on a modern Linux machine. > > hmm - I hadn't exactly overlooked that, so much as thinking it was out of > > scope. Here's what I think you're talking about, from a 1996 file from SCO: > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > # Intel AT/386 for color card with monochrome display > > # > > AT386-M|at386-m|386AT-M|386at-m|at/386 console, > > am, bw, eo, xon, xt, > > cols#80, lines#25, > > acsc=``a1fxgqh0jYk?lZm@nEooppqDrrsstCu4vAwBx3yyzz{{||}}~~, > > bel=^G, blink=\E[5m, bold=\E[1m, clear=\E[2J\E[H, > > cr=\r, cub=\E[%p1%dD, cub1=\E[D, cud=\E[%p1%dB, > > cud1=\E[B, cuf=\E[%p1%dC, cuf1=\E[C, > > cup=\E[%i%p1%02d;%p2%02dH, cuu=\E[%p1%dA, cuu1=\E[A, > > dch=\E[%p1%dP, dch1=\E[P, dl=\E[%p1%dM, dl1=\E[1M, > > ed=\E[J, el=\E[K, flash=^G, home=\E[H, ht=\t, > > ich=\E[%p1%d@, ich1=\E[1@, il=\E[%p1%dL, il1=\E[1L, > > ind=\E[S, indn=\E[%P1%dS, invis=\E[9m, is2=\E[0;10;38m, > > kbs=\b, kcbt=^], kclr=\E[2J, kcub1=\E[D, kcud1=\E[B, > > kcuf1=\E[C, kcuu1=\E[A, kdch1=\E[P, kend=\E[Y, > > kf1=\EOP, kf10=\EOY, kf11=\EOZ, kf12=\EOA, kf2=\EOQ, > > kf3=\EOR, kf4=\EOS, kf5=\EOT, kf6=\EOU, kf7=\EOV, > > kf8=\EOW, kf9=\EOX, khome=\E[H, kich1=\E[@, knp=\E[U, > > kpp=\E[V, krmir=\E0, rev=\E[7m, rin=\E[S, > > rmacs=\E[10m, rmso=\E[m, rmul=\E[m, > > > > sgr=\E[10m\E[0%?%p1%p3%|%t;7%;%?%p2%t;4%;%?%p4%t;5%;%?%p6%t;1%;%?%p9%t;12%;%?%p7%t;9%;m, > > sgr0=\E[0;10m, smacs=\E[12m, smso=\E[7m, smul=\E[4m, > > # > > # AT&T 386 color console > > # > > AT386|at386|386AT|386at|at/386 console, > > colors#8, ncv#3, pairs#64, > > is2=\E[0;10;39m, > > op=\E[0m, > > setb=\E[%?%p1%{0}%=%t40m > > %e%p1%{1}%=%t44m > > %e%p1%{2}%=%t42m > > %e%p1%{3}%=%t46m > > %e%p1%{4}%=%t41m > > %e%p1%{5}%=%t45m > > %e%p1%{6}%=%t43m > > %e%p1%{7}%=%t47m%;, > > setf=\E[%?%p1%{0}%=%t30m > > %e%p1%{1}%=%t34m > > %e%p1%{2}%=%t32m > > %e%p1%{3}%=%t36m > > %e%p1%{4}%=%t31m > > %e%p1%{5}%=%t35m > > %e%p1%{6}%=%t33m > > %e%p1%{6}%=%t33m > > %e%p1%{7}%=%t37m%;, > > use=at386-m, > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Mostly I'm interested in things that can be validated. > > > > https://invisible-island.net/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html#dbupdate > > > > It's possible that you have found an overlooked terminal description > > which is > > (a) supported by a (working) terminal emulator and > > (b) you can find a manual to cross-check the behavior > > > > But I see some problems to investigate, e.g., indn/rin are using "%P1" for > > one ("%p1" is expected), and omitting the parameter in the other. A later > > file from Solaris fixes the "%P1" typo, but still doesn't provide a > > plausible > > value for rin. > > > > I'd actually expect rin to be as in ecma+index, but might be persuaded > > otherwise, given a detailed manual: > > > > # ECMA-48 does not include the VT100 indexing and scroll-margins. It has > > its > > # own variation. > > ecma+index|ECMA-48 scroll up/down, > > indn=\E[%p1%dS, rin=\E[%p1%dT, > > > > ...bitsavers doesn't appear to have any useful AT&T terminal manuals. > > Testing the machine's an option (though getting tack to run on Solaris 7 > > might be challenging). > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > tic6: sorting by terminfo name order > > tic6: width = 60, tversion = 0, outform = 0 > > "/tmp/at386.ti", line 3, terminal 'AT386-M': indn uses 0 parameters, > > expected 1 > > "/tmp/at386.ti", line 3, terminal 'AT386-M': rin uses 0 parameters, > > expected 1 > > "/tmp/at386.ti", line 3, terminal 'AT386-M': checking sgr(none) > > "\e[10m\e[0m" > > compare to "\e[0;10m" > > unmatched "10m" > > "/tmp/at386.ti", line 3, terminal 'AT386-M': exit_attribute_mode differs > > from sgr(0) > > exit_attribute_mode="\e[0;10m" > > sgr(0)="\e[10m\e[0m" > > "/tmp/at386.ti", line 3, terminal 'AT386-M': exit_standout_mode matches > > exit_attribute_mode > > "/tmp/at386.ti", line 3, terminal 'AT386-M': exit_underline_mode matches > > exit_attribute_mode > > "/tmp/at386.ti", line 27, terminal 'AT386': indn uses 0 parameters, > > expected 1 > > "/tmp/at386.ti", line 27, terminal 'AT386': rin uses 0 parameters, expected > > 1 > > "/tmp/at386.ti", line 27, terminal 'AT386': checking sgr(none) "\e[10m\e[0m" > > compare to "\e[0;10m" > > unmatched "10m" > > "/tmp/at386.ti", line 27, terminal 'AT386': exit_attribute_mode differs > > from sgr(0) > > exit_attribute_mode="\e[0;10m" > > sgr(0)="\e[10m\e[0m" > > "/tmp/at386.ti", line 27, terminal 'AT386': exit_standout_mode matches > > exit_attribute_mode > > "/tmp/at386.ti", line 27, terminal 'AT386': exit_underline_mode matches > > exit_attribute_mode > > > -- Thomas E. 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