I'm an admin who prefers details and exact info - I almost always work in
> On Oct 14, 2016, at 3:43 PM, John Pittman <jpitt...@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>> Kickstart isn't the typical intended user of parted, and if it wants
>> sectors it can request them.
> I didn't claim it was, I was using it as an example to show that users don't
> need the default print to be compact and likely won't even need to look at it
> at all.
> Another and the best example of this, I suppose, would be parted's claim to
> the script function. If you're running things from the command line ,or even
> more so, from
> a script, users do not generally print after creation.
>> Yes, seeing the exact sectors is sometimes useful when troubleshooting,
>> and you can easily request that, but most of the time people people
>> don't need to be concerned with sectors and prefer to work in gb, which
>> is why that is the default. The lvm user interface also does not
>> normally care about sectors.
> Seeing sectors is always useful, not sometimes. It's GB or MB (more and more
> these days TB)
> or any higher level measurement that is only sometimes useful. And if I'm
> not mistaken,
> lvm uses sector boundaries as a guide to writing it's labels/metadata.
> Higher level
> measurements are only useful with creation and whole disk size printing.
>> How do you figure? If I want a 10 gb root partition and a 100gb home
>> partition, I tell parted to make a partition starting at 1m that is 10g
>> long and another starting at 10g and is 100g long. When I print the
>> table to check what I have done, I expect to see 10g and 100g, not
>> whatever that works out to in sectors.
> This is the one and only argument I could think of for keeping print at
> default compact. But the user can as easily add a 'u GB' or any other unit
> as they can a 'u s'.
> Further, if a user comes to the parted tool to create, they will specify the
> unit in almost all
> cases. I have never seen, in my working with admins and the like, a case
> where they do not.
> However, if they come to the parted tool using the print command, they are
> looking for
> information for any number of reasons. This information should be provided
> in the exact
> form of sectors. We should not choose for them how exact the information
> should be. This
> is very different than parted automatically choosing the alignment because
> there is no
> inquiry into the partition structure by the user going on in that case.