On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 08:58:40PM -0400, Karl Berry wrote:
>     > @'{@ptexi}
> 
> It's the old way of doing @dotless{i}.  Peter, please try that.

Well I have tried. Hmmm...

Now it works with makeinfo, but TeX runs out of space:

! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [parameter stack size=60]. 

I use it like:

ford@'{dotless{i}}totta
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The surrounding curly braces are necessary, because otherwise TeX
complains:

! Argument of @dotless has an extra }. 

If I use @'{@ptexi}, then only makeinfo has the problem.
I have tried it with two absolutely different TeX distributions/systems.

Any idea ? I have none with this.


>     > Problems are the following with "texi2dvi,v 0.8 1998/02/26 21:13:13" which
> 
> 0.8 is ancient history.  The latest texi2dvi is 0.43, and yes, you
> probably want the whole current distribution.

Ok, I will use that. Above described problem is the same.

>     I believe there should be txi-hu.tex that should redefine @chapter as
>     appropriate, no?
> 
> Yes, Peter will need to create txi-hu.tex.

Ok. I try to create. I will try to redefine the necessary keywords.
I will report back, when I did it.


> A simple include won't do.  What you need to do is dump a new format
> that contains the hungarian hyphenation patterns.  You will need to edit
> texinfo.tex to \input huhyph.tex at an appropriate point (early on I
> guess), then
>   initex texinfo @dump
> (See the `preparing for tex' node of the texinfo manual, web2c man
> pages, etc.)
> 
> Obviously support could be much improved in this area.

Yes, well, hmmm ...

Just using the "\input huhyph.tex" is not enough, because there is already
a pattern in plain format, so I have to use something like "\language 1"
and then \input ... Then the dumping works, but the created texinfo.fmt is
_never_ used. Ok, I know I am not a TeX expert, but with other formats
(like plain, latex) I could do this modification, but I do not
know/understand which program should use the texinfo.fmt file. If I delete
all texinfo.tex files and only texinfo.fmt stays in the appropriate web2c
directory and there are proper settings for the directory, because all
other formats are used appropriately, then "tex gawk.texi" will
simply complain that it cannot find texinfo.fmt . So it does not work.

At the moment I simply use the modified texinfo.tex with hyphenation and

initex gawk.texi

which works, but definitely not ideal.


Summarising my problems:
- using dotless makes TeX to use up all internal space
- including hyphenation is possible only with initex (encoding may not be
  all right at all ? - hyphenation after an accented charater is somehow
  not done)

                                Best regards,

                                        Peter Ivanyi

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