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------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-10 22:14 -------
Here's how one can reproduce at least some of the symptoms on my bv2.
Be sure you know what you're doing. If you reverse the polarity,
all you're likely to get is a heap of smoking misery. All readings
are from the lab supply. I didn't measure what's going on on USB.

- remove the battery
- set the voltage of your lab power supply to 3.0V
- hook up your lab supply instead the the battery (careful !)
- set the current limit high (above 300 mA)
- connect USB
- your voltage readout on the lab supply should jump to about 4.1V
- turn your Neo on. You should now get, on the lab supply, up to
  250 mA and 3.0V
- while the system is running, limit the current to about 220 mA
- the system should reset, make it to the splash screen, reset
  again, etc.
- briefly press the power button to end this
- power on repeats the cycle
- you can reduce the time the splash screen is shown by limiting the
  current further. The minimum is about 150 mA.
- you'll notice that each cycle lasts about 1.25 seconds
- limit the current to about 90 mA
- all of a sudden, the cycles get quicker, about 0.6 seconds
- pressing the power button no longer has any effect now
- if I disconnect and reconnect USB, the machine happily enters the
  same cycle again
- further lowering the current accelerates the cycle to about 120 ms
- this goes on until I limit the current to nominally zero
- even at "zero", the cycle is restarted as soon as both USB and
  battery power are present (no matter in which order)

Note that my bv2 is "naked". In particular, it doesn't have a vibrator,
which may change some of the results.

- Werner



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------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-10 22:14 -------
Here's how one can reproduce at least some of the symptoms on my bv2.
Be sure you know what you're doing. If you reverse the polarity,
all you're likely to get is a heap of smoking misery. All readings
are from the lab supply. I didn't measure what's going on on USB.

- remove the battery
- set the voltage of your lab power supply to 3.0V
- hook up your lab supply instead the the battery (careful !)
- set the current limit high (above 300 mA)
- connect USB
- your voltage readout on the lab supply should jump to about 4.1V
- turn your Neo on. You should now get, on the lab supply, up to
  250 mA and 3.0V
- while the system is running, limit the current to about 220 mA
- the system should reset, make it to the splash screen, reset
  again, etc.
- briefly press the power button to end this
- power on repeats the cycle
- you can reduce the time the splash screen is shown by limiting the
  current further. The minimum is about 150 mA.
- you'll notice that each cycle lasts about 1.25 seconds
- limit the current to about 90 mA
- all of a sudden, the cycles get quicker, about 0.6 seconds
- pressing the power button no longer has any effect now
- if I disconnect and reconnect USB, the machine happily enters the
  same cycle again
- further lowering the current accelerates the cycle to about 120 ms
- this goes on until I limit the current to nominally zero
- even at "zero", the cycle is restarted as soon as both USB and
  battery power are present (no matter in which order)

Note that my bv2 is "naked". In particular, it doesn't have a vibrator,
which may change some of the results.

- Werner



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------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-10 22:28 -------
I've made some test by dd-ing from /dev/zero to /media/ram (which is a tmpfs):

Case 1: Fill up /media/ram with 10MB files...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dd bs=1k count=10k if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test0
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dd bs=1k count=10k if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test1
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dd bs=1k count=10k if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test2
<CRASHED>

Case 2: The same, but overwrite each file 100 times...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo -n "$i "; dd bs=1k count=10k
if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test0 2> /dev/null; done; echo
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57
58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84
85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo -n "$i "; dd bs=1k count=10k
if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test1 2> /dev/null; done; echo
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57
58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84
85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        126832      57792      69040          0          0      43200
-/+ buffers/cache:      14592     112240
Swap:            0          0          0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ df /media/ram
Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs                    63416     20512     42904  32% /media/ram
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo -n "$i "; dd bs=1k count=10k
if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test2 2> /dev/null; done; echo
1 
<CRASHED>

Case 3: Fill up /media/ram 64kB at a time...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free; for i in `seq 1 10000`; do echo -n "$i: "; dd bs=1k
count=64 if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test$i 2> /dev/null; free | grep Mem; done;
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        126832      37112      89720          0          0      22656
-/+ buffers/cache:      14456     112376
Swap:            0          0          0
355: Mem:        126832      60404      66428          0          0      45440
356: Mem:        126832      60468      66364          0          0      45504
357: Mem:        126832      60544      66288          0          0      45568
358: Mem:        126832      60708      66124          0          0      45632
359: Mem:        126832      60736      66096          0          0      45696
360: Mem:        126832      60792      66040          0          0      45760
361: Mem:        126832      60796      66036          0          0      45824
362: Mem:        126832      60852      65980          0          0      45888
363: Mem:        126832      61016      65816          0          0      45952
364: Mem:        126832      61016      65816          0          0      46016
365: Mem:        126832      61100      65732          0          0      46080
366: Mem:        126832      61104      65728          0          0      46144
367: Mem:        126832      61188      65644          0          0      46208
368: Segmentation fault
369: 
<CRASHED>

Case 4: Fill up /media/ram 1MB at a time...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free; for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo -n "$i: "; dd bs=1k
count=1k if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test$i 2> /dev/null; free | grep Mem; done;
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        126832      37428      89404          0          0      22704
-/+ buffers/cache:      14724     112108
Swap:            0          0          0
1: Mem:        126832      38488      88344          0          0      23728
2: Mem:        126832      39496      87336          0          0      24752
3: Mem:        126832      40480      86352          0          0      25776
4: Mem:        126832      41596      85236          0          0      26800
5: Mem:        126832      42632      84200          0          0      27824
6: Mem:        126832      43640      83192          0          0      28848
7: Mem:        126832      44604      82228          0          0      29872
8: Mem:        126832      45740      81092          0          0      30896
9: Mem:        126832      46692      80140          0          0      31920
10: Mem:        126832      47728      79104          0          0      32944
11: Mem:        126832      48820      78012          0          0      33968
12: Mem:        126832      49828      77004          0          0      34992
13: Mem:        126832      50892      75940          0          0      36016
14: Mem:        126832      51928      74904          0          0      37040
15: Mem:        126832      52884      73948          0          0      38064
16: Mem:        126832      53928      72904          0          0      39088
17: Mem:        126832      55036      71796          0          0      40112
18: Mem:        126832      56016      70816          0          0      41136
19: Mem:        126832      57052      69780          0          0      42160
20: Mem:        126832      58088      68744          0          0      43184
21: Mem:        126832      59152      67680          0          0      44208
22: Mem:        126832      60160      66672          0          0      45232
23: Mem:        126832      61144      65688          0          0      46256
24: 
<CRASHED>

Ok, what does this tell us? The crashes are *not* dependent on how much IO is
being done at a time. Writing to the same part of memory over and over again is
no problem.

I've repeated case 3 and 4 several times, it always crashes when free memory is
near 64MB.

So there seems to be some problem with the second ram bank?



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------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-10 22:28 -------
I've made some test by dd-ing from /dev/zero to /media/ram (which is a tmpfs):

Case 1: Fill up /media/ram with 10MB files...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dd bs=1k count=10k if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test0
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dd bs=1k count=10k if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test1
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dd bs=1k count=10k if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test2
<CRASHED>

Case 2: The same, but overwrite each file 100 times...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo -n "$i "; dd bs=1k count=10k
if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test0 2> /dev/null; done; echo
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57
58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84
85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo -n "$i "; dd bs=1k count=10k
if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test1 2> /dev/null; done; echo
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57
58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84
85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        126832      57792      69040          0          0      43200
-/+ buffers/cache:      14592     112240
Swap:            0          0          0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ df /media/ram
Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs                    63416     20512     42904  32% /media/ram
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo -n "$i "; dd bs=1k count=10k
if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test2 2> /dev/null; done; echo
1 
<CRASHED>

Case 3: Fill up /media/ram 64kB at a time...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free; for i in `seq 1 10000`; do echo -n "$i: "; dd bs=1k
count=64 if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test$i 2> /dev/null; free | grep Mem; done;
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        126832      37112      89720          0          0      22656
-/+ buffers/cache:      14456     112376
Swap:            0          0          0
355: Mem:        126832      60404      66428          0          0      45440
356: Mem:        126832      60468      66364          0          0      45504
357: Mem:        126832      60544      66288          0          0      45568
358: Mem:        126832      60708      66124          0          0      45632
359: Mem:        126832      60736      66096          0          0      45696
360: Mem:        126832      60792      66040          0          0      45760
361: Mem:        126832      60796      66036          0          0      45824
362: Mem:        126832      60852      65980          0          0      45888
363: Mem:        126832      61016      65816          0          0      45952
364: Mem:        126832      61016      65816          0          0      46016
365: Mem:        126832      61100      65732          0          0      46080
366: Mem:        126832      61104      65728          0          0      46144
367: Mem:        126832      61188      65644          0          0      46208
368: Segmentation fault
369: 
<CRASHED>

Case 4: Fill up /media/ram 1MB at a time...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free; for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo -n "$i: "; dd bs=1k
count=1k if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test$i 2> /dev/null; free | grep Mem; done;
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        126832      37428      89404          0          0      22704
-/+ buffers/cache:      14724     112108
Swap:            0          0          0
1: Mem:        126832      38488      88344          0          0      23728
2: Mem:        126832      39496      87336          0          0      24752
3: Mem:        126832      40480      86352          0          0      25776
4: Mem:        126832      41596      85236          0          0      26800
5: Mem:        126832      42632      84200          0          0      27824
6: Mem:        126832      43640      83192          0          0      28848
7: Mem:        126832      44604      82228          0          0      29872
8: Mem:        126832      45740      81092          0          0      30896
9: Mem:        126832      46692      80140          0          0      31920
10: Mem:        126832      47728      79104          0          0      32944
11: Mem:        126832      48820      78012          0          0      33968
12: Mem:        126832      49828      77004          0          0      34992
13: Mem:        126832      50892      75940          0          0      36016
14: Mem:        126832      51928      74904          0          0      37040
15: Mem:        126832      52884      73948          0          0      38064
16: Mem:        126832      53928      72904          0          0      39088
17: Mem:        126832      55036      71796          0          0      40112
18: Mem:        126832      56016      70816          0          0      41136
19: Mem:        126832      57052      69780          0          0      42160
20: Mem:        126832      58088      68744          0          0      43184
21: Mem:        126832      59152      67680          0          0      44208
22: Mem:        126832      60160      66672          0          0      45232
23: Mem:        126832      61144      65688          0          0      46256
24: 
<CRASHED>

Ok, what does this tell us? The crashes are *not* dependent on how much IO is
being done at a time. Writing to the same part of memory over and over again is
no problem.

I've repeated case 3 and 4 several times, it always crashes when free memory is
near 64MB.

So there seems to be some problem with the second ram bank?



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------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-10 22:28 -------
I've made some test by dd-ing from /dev/zero to /media/ram (which is a tmpfs):

Case 1: Fill up /media/ram with 10MB files...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dd bs=1k count=10k if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test0
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dd bs=1k count=10k if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test1
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dd bs=1k count=10k if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test2
<CRASHED>

Case 2: The same, but overwrite each file 100 times...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo -n "$i "; dd bs=1k count=10k
if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test0 2> /dev/null; done; echo
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57
58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84
85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo -n "$i "; dd bs=1k count=10k
if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test1 2> /dev/null; done; echo
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57
58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84
85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        126832      57792      69040          0          0      43200
-/+ buffers/cache:      14592     112240
Swap:            0          0          0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ df /media/ram
Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs                    63416     20512     42904  32% /media/ram
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo -n "$i "; dd bs=1k count=10k
if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test2 2> /dev/null; done; echo
1 
<CRASHED>

Case 3: Fill up /media/ram 64kB at a time...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free; for i in `seq 1 10000`; do echo -n "$i: "; dd bs=1k
count=64 if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test$i 2> /dev/null; free | grep Mem; done;
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        126832      37112      89720          0          0      22656
-/+ buffers/cache:      14456     112376
Swap:            0          0          0
355: Mem:        126832      60404      66428          0          0      45440
356: Mem:        126832      60468      66364          0          0      45504
357: Mem:        126832      60544      66288          0          0      45568
358: Mem:        126832      60708      66124          0          0      45632
359: Mem:        126832      60736      66096          0          0      45696
360: Mem:        126832      60792      66040          0          0      45760
361: Mem:        126832      60796      66036          0          0      45824
362: Mem:        126832      60852      65980          0          0      45888
363: Mem:        126832      61016      65816          0          0      45952
364: Mem:        126832      61016      65816          0          0      46016
365: Mem:        126832      61100      65732          0          0      46080
366: Mem:        126832      61104      65728          0          0      46144
367: Mem:        126832      61188      65644          0          0      46208
368: Segmentation fault
369: 
<CRASHED>

Case 4: Fill up /media/ram 1MB at a time...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free; for i in `seq 1 100`; do echo -n "$i: "; dd bs=1k
count=1k if=/dev/zero of=/media/ram/test$i 2> /dev/null; free | grep Mem; done;
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        126832      37428      89404          0          0      22704
-/+ buffers/cache:      14724     112108
Swap:            0          0          0
1: Mem:        126832      38488      88344          0          0      23728
2: Mem:        126832      39496      87336          0          0      24752
3: Mem:        126832      40480      86352          0          0      25776
4: Mem:        126832      41596      85236          0          0      26800
5: Mem:        126832      42632      84200          0          0      27824
6: Mem:        126832      43640      83192          0          0      28848
7: Mem:        126832      44604      82228          0          0      29872
8: Mem:        126832      45740      81092          0          0      30896
9: Mem:        126832      46692      80140          0          0      31920
10: Mem:        126832      47728      79104          0          0      32944
11: Mem:        126832      48820      78012          0          0      33968
12: Mem:        126832      49828      77004          0          0      34992
13: Mem:        126832      50892      75940          0          0      36016
14: Mem:        126832      51928      74904          0          0      37040
15: Mem:        126832      52884      73948          0          0      38064
16: Mem:        126832      53928      72904          0          0      39088
17: Mem:        126832      55036      71796          0          0      40112
18: Mem:        126832      56016      70816          0          0      41136
19: Mem:        126832      57052      69780          0          0      42160
20: Mem:        126832      58088      68744          0          0      43184
21: Mem:        126832      59152      67680          0          0      44208
22: Mem:        126832      60160      66672          0          0      45232
23: Mem:        126832      61144      65688          0          0      46256
24: 
<CRASHED>

Ok, what does this tell us? The crashes are *not* dependent on how much IO is
being done at a time. Writing to the same part of memory over and over again is
no problem.

I've repeated case 3 and 4 several times, it always crashes when free memory is
near 64MB.

So there seems to be some problem with the second ram bank?



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           Summary: Mount /tmp as tmpfs
           Product: OpenMoko
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: Neo1973
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: OE bitbake recipes  / build system
        AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Currently /tmp is not mounted as tmpfs which means all writes into /tmp cause
flash-wear.



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